Hoss vs Herb, Tribulation salvation.

Hoss Cartwright vs Herb Evans.

  HERB: 1. Does grace bring salvation or does faith plus works bring salvation?

HOSS: It depends on what plan of salvation has been dispensed by God's grace.

        HERB: 2. Do those Gentiles get saved by faith plus  works? Or just Grace?

HOSS: It depends on what plan of salvation has been dispensed by God's grace.

        HERB: 3. I have no problem with them leaving the "Church " Age since Rev. 4:1. But where do you find that they left the grace age and entered the faith plus works age.

HOSS: What is "the church age"? There has almost always been churches and by definition Noah's assembly in the flood was a church (though not called that directly, but it perfectly fits the definition as "congregation" (Heb. 2:12 with Ps. 22:22-28).

       HERB:  4. Do you have a problem with us keeping the the faith of Jesus and the commanfdments of God. Are we no longer to keep the commandments of God in this grace dispensation?

HOSS: I have no problem with attempting to keep the faith of Jesus and His commandments--but not for salvation since I am already justified by His faith and don't have to "keep" it to be saved. Hint, hint, hint.

        HERB: 5. Do these saint by become saints by faith plus works? Do they keep saved by faith plus works. Can they loose their salvation and cease to DIE IN THE LORD?

HOSS: Generally speaking, you can only "die in the Lord" once. Though there have been exceptions. But the trib saints must not take the mark of the beast and endure to the end etc. etc. to be saved according to their own faith by God's grace.