Baptism














The case against water baptism (part 1)
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-case-against-water-baptism-part-1.html 

The case against water baptism (part 2)
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/12/the-case-against-water-baptism-part-2.html

What is "baptism into Christ"?
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/02/what-is-baptism-into-christ.html 


Was John's baptism different from Peter's?
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/08/was-johns-baptism-different-than-peters.html 

Immersion?
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/10/immersion.html 


Mid-Acts Dispensational water baptism debate.  
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/01/mid-acts-dispensational-water-baptism.html

What are "the ordinances" of the Church?
http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/08/what-are-ordinances-of-church.html

Grace Ambassadors (Pastor Justin Johnson) baptism content
http://graceambassadors.com/baptism

Moody Theology Class: Answers To Questions On Water Baptism (audio of Cornelius Stam)
https://www.bereanbiblesociety.org/moody-theology-class-answers-to-questions-on-water-baptism/

Understanding water baptism by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUREvtRtSJM


Distinctions that matter, baptism! by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZ-H6hPhBSo

Should I be water baptized by Ron Knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwHYp4pzcJA

Is water baptism a command that we should follow? by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jk1H88K6UhY

Is water baptism for today? by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1rEH5cc9cxw

Baptism and the believer by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFRIcu85OnQ

Eph. 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism by Richard Jordan
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsWV1KtTIwI

There are different baptisms in the Bible by Ron Knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RthMwV3Lx0M

There is one baptism, and it isn't water by Ron Knight
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VrQZKqXrW0

Introduction to baptism by Justin Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRcHeZclemk

What is baptism? by Justin Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wopYxLuUu4E

Paul's one baptism by Justin Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cTnob21rams

Baptism with the Holy Ghost by Justin Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRqzcWsWkEU 


"Baptism" by Pastor Steve Atwood   
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rm3BAnVMTOg 

"What's the big deal with water baptism" by Pastor Perry Lemmons 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiEbBm3spsk 


"Baptism" by E.C. Moore
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLD072BF8FE28E2C9B  

2 comments:

  1. Wow! Great stuff, Hoss. While I agree with you in the main, I think that you do make an assumption about the jailer being a Jew or proselyte, which I'm not sure can be proven and is one of the toughest things to reconcile with the rest of this position. The other assumption is that, based on 1 Cor. 12:2, the Corinthians were in the main proselytes. I don't see anything to indicate that Crispus, a ruler of the synagogue, was a proselyte, though it's clear that Justus was. Readers should also note that (1) while Paul received instructions from the Lord re: the church age application of the Lord's supper, he did not receive such instructions re: water baptism; and (2) circumcision in this age is spiritual (Col. 2:11), and so it would seem, per v. 12, that baptism is as well. Circumcision is no longer practiced, so might we not conclude that water baptism need/should no longer be practiced either?

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    1. Thanks. Most of the stuff on the "Baptism" page are articles against the false religion of the 'church of christ', but there are several posts on why there is only "one baptism" under Grace and how water baptism is not a commandment to Gentiles in the Body of Christ (1 Cor. 1:17). I recently added a lot of videos from Grace Movement teachers such as Pastors Justin Johnson. Richard Jordan, Ron Knight, Steve Atwood, and E.C. Moore. I do agree that Colossians 2:10-23 says that we are complete in Christ upon spiritual baptism/circumcision and because of that we do not need to observe any physical symbolic ordinances that are only mere "shadows" (figures) of the REAL thing, there is truly only one REAL baptism in the calling and unity of the Church which is the Body of Christ (Eph. 4:5).

      Some teach that Paul had a 'separate water baptism' from John the Baptist and the 12 apostles, but the Bible does not say that. Paul got baptized with Kingdom water baptism by Ananias as a figure of the washing away of sins (Acts 22:16). If God had of sent Paul out to preach the gospel and to baptize with a 'new' water baptism, then I don't think he would have gone along with Ananias's Kingdom baptism.

      The Corinthian church had followers of Peter in it (1 Cor. 1:12, 3:22) as well as Apollos, so I take for granted that they had a lot of Kingdom program influence.

      I don't think it really matters if the Corinthians and Philippians were Jews or Gentiles. In the Acts period the Gentiles also abstained from meats strangled, with blood, and those offered to idols. The Gentiles also spoke with tongues and other signs that are Jewish (1 Cor. 1:22).

      I believe the issue is that Paul was not told to baptize and it had nothing to do with his Grace commission of 2 Cor. 5:14-6:2, Eph. 3:1-9, and Col. 1:25-28 (1 Cor. 1:17). Paul was not following the revealed will of God (that is a direct or implied command in the word of God) and therefore we are not obligated to 'follow Paul' in water baptizing (1 Cor. 11:1-2) as some of the more dispensational Baptists will tell us.

      I do not water baptize for the same reasons I do not....

      1.) Keep the law (Matt. 5:17-20, 5:23-24, 8:1-4, 23:1-3, 24:20, Mark 1:44)

      2.) Turn the other cheek

      3.) Lend every time someone asks

      4.) Sell all that I have (Matt. 6:19-34, 8:20, 10:8-10, 13:44-46, 19:16-24, Mark 6:7-9, 10:17-23, Luke 3:8-11, 9:1-4, 12:15-34, Acts 2:44-45, 3:1-6, 4:32-37, 5:1-11).

      5.) Forgive in order to be forgiven (Matt. 6:12-15, 18:21-35, Mark 11:25-26, Luke 6:37, 11:4).

      6.) Tell God that I will pay my own debt to Him with my works (Matt. 16:27, 18:26).

      7.) For the same reason that I do not trust in my righteousness being better than that of someone else (Matt. 5:20, 5:48, John 5:29)

      etc.

      http://av1611studyblog.blogspot.com/2015/08/was-johns-baptism-different-than-peters.html

      Thanks! --bro. Eli "Hoss" Caldwell

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