When I tell people that Matthew--John and Hebrews--Revelation are written to those believers in the tribulation period and are not written directly to the church of the dispensation of grace (the Body of Christ)....I get such responses as
"Why are you chopping out part of the New Testament books?"
"How could you say that the words of Jesus are not for me?"
"Oh, well all of the Bible is for me."
"I think the words of Jesus are most important."
(emphasis theirs)
But why do I make such claims? Why do I "chop up" the Bible? Because I was told to "RIGHTLY DIVIDE" the word of truth!
2 Timothy 2:15 Study to shew thyself approved unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.
In light of 2 Timothy 2:15 there must be proper divisions in the Bible that should be studied out by the believer in order to be approved by God at the judgment seat of Christ (judgment based on service after salvation--see 1 Corinthians 3 and 2 Corinthians 5).
What kind of "divisions" are there in the Bible? Well there is a division between the Old Testament and the New Testament....
Hebrews 9:
[12] Neither by the blood of goats and calves, but by his own blood he entered in once into the holy place, having obtained eternal redemption for us.
[13] For if the blood of bulls and of goats, and the ashes of an heifer sprinkling the unclean, sanctifieth to the purifying of the flesh:
[14] How much more shall the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered himself without spot to God, purge your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?
[15] And for this cause he is the mediator of the new testament, that by means of death, for the redemption of the transgressions that were under the first testament, they which are called might receive the promise of eternal inheritance.
[16] For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the death of the testator.
[17] For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.
[18] Whereupon neither the first testament was dedicated without blood.
[19] For when Moses had spoken every precept to all the people according to the law, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water, and scarlet wool, and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people,
[20] Saying, This is the blood of the testament which God hath enjoined unto you.
[21] Moreover he sprinkled with blood both the tabernacle, and all the vessels of the ministry.
[22] And almost all things are by the law purged with blood; and without shedding of blood is no remission.
The Old Testament was from Exodus to Matthew 27 with the death of Christ. The New Testament did NOT begin with John the Baptist's ministry in Matthew 3 like many claim.
Did the law of Moses end at the cross? NO! The law was "changed"....Hebrews 7:12 For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. God's plan for Israel after the tribulation and entering into the Kingdom of Heaven under the New Covenant IS THAT THEY KEEP THE LAW PERFECTLY BY THE POWER OF THE HOLY GHOST! The law of Moses did not end with the shedding of Christ's blood, it ended temporarily when Christ dispensed the revelation of the mystery to Paul. The twelve apostles were still observing the Law and going into the temple (Acts 2:46, Acts 10:9-17). In Acts 20:17-21, James and the church elders of Jerusalem are zealous of the law with all of their following. THAT WAS AFTER CHRIST REVEALED THE DOCTRINE OF GRACE TO PAUL!
Paul said that we are "not under the law but under grace" (Rom. 6:14) and that the Law ordinances were "dung" (Phil. 3:1-9). Paul said that the ordinances had been blotted out by Christ and nailed to His cross (Col. 2:14). However, Paul said that they law ordinances were a "shadow of things TO COME".
Colossians 2:
[16] Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:
[17] Which are a shadow of things to come; but the body is of Christ.
The Jews will be under the Law during the tribulation period--so much so that they cannot flee the antichrist when he is persecuting them on the Sabbath (Matt. 24:20). The Law of Moses was not taken away at Calvary for the Jews, it was only changed according to Hebrews 7:12. For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
I am going to post a bunch of scripture references below and if you read them you will be able to discern that after the great tribulation Christ will re-gather Israel and start the 1,000 year Kingdom of Heaven on the earth. That is when Christ will takeaway Israel's sins and pour out the Holy Ghost on "all flesh" and "cause them" to keep His Law.
Jeremiah 30:
[4] And these are the words that the LORD spake concerning Israel and concerning Judah.
[5] For thus saith the LORD; We have heard a voice of trembling, of fear, and not of peace.
[6] Ask ye now, and see whether a man doth travail with child? wherefore do I see every man with his hands on his loins, as a woman in travail, and all faces are turned into paleness?
[7] Alas! for that day is great, so that none is like it: it is even the time of Jacob's trouble; but he shall be saved out of it.
[8] For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the LORD of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him:
[9] But they shall serve the LORD their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them.
[10] Therefore fear thou not, O my servant Jacob, saith the LORD; neither be dismayed, O Israel: for, lo, I will save thee from afar, and thy seed from the land of their captivity; and Jacob shall return, and shall be in rest, and be quiet, and none shall make him afraid.
[11] For I am with thee, saith the LORD, to save thee: though I make a full end of all nations whither I have scattered thee, yet will I not make a full end of thee: but I will correct thee in measure, and will not leave thee altogether unpunished.
[12] For thus saith the LORD, Thy bruise is incurable, and thy wound is grievous.
[13] There is none to plead thy cause, that thou mayest be bound up: thou hast no healing medicines.
[14] All thy lovers have forgotten thee; they seek thee not; for I have wounded thee with the wound of an enemy, with the chastisement of a cruel one, for the multitude of thine iniquity; because thy sins were increased.
[15] Why criest thou for thine affliction? thy sorrow is incurable for the multitude of thine iniquity: because thy sins were increased, I have done these things unto thee.
[16] Therefore all they that devour thee shall be devoured; and all thine adversaries, every one of them, shall go into captivity; and they that spoil thee shall be a spoil, and all that prey upon thee will I give for a prey.
[17] For I will restore health unto thee, and I will heal thee of thy wounds, saith the LORD; because they called thee an Outcast, saying, This is Zion, whom no man seeketh after.
[18] Thus saith the LORD; Behold, I will bring again the captivity of Jacob's tents, and have mercy on his dwellingplaces; and the city shall be builded upon her own heap, and the palace shall remain after the manner thereof.
[19] And out of them shall proceed thanksgiving and the voice of them that make merry: and I will multiply them, and they shall not be few; I will also glorify them, and they shall not be small.
[20] Their children also shall be as aforetime, and their congregation shall be established before me, and I will punish all that oppress them.
[21] And their nobles shall be of themselves, and their governor shall proceed from the midst of them; and I will cause him to draw near, and he shall approach unto me: for who is this that engaged his heart to approach unto me? saith the LORD.
[22] And ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
[23] Behold, the whirlwind of the LORD goeth forth with fury, a continuing whirlwind: it shall fall with pain upon the head of the wicked.
[24] The fierce anger of the LORD shall not return, until he have done it, and until he have performed the intents of his heart: in the latter days ye shall consider it.
Jeremiah 31:
[31] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
[32] Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
[33] But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
[34] And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD; for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Jeremiah 32:
[36] And now therefore thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning this city, whereof ye say, It shall be delivered into the hand of the king of Babylon by the sword, and by the famine, and by the pestilence;
[37] Behold, I will gather them out of all countries, whither I have driven them in mine anger, and in my fury, and in great wrath; and I will bring them again unto this place, and I will cause them to dwell safely:
[38] And they shall be my people, and I will be their God:
[39] And I will give them one heart, and one way, that they may fear me for ever, for the good of them, and of their children after them:
[40] And I will make an everlasting covenant with them, that I will not turn away from them, to do them good; but I will put my fear in their hearts, that they shall not depart from me.
[41] Yea, I will rejoice over them to do them good, and I will plant them in this land assuredly with my whole heart and with my whole soul.
[42] For thus saith the LORD; Like as I have brought all this great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them.
Jeremiah 33:
[4] For thus saith the LORD, the God of Israel, concerning the houses of this city, and concerning the houses of the kings of Judah, which are thrown down by the mounts, and by the sword;
[5] They come to fight with the Chaldeans, but it is fill them with the dead bodies of men, whom I have slain in mine anger and in my fury, and for all whose wickedness I have hid my face from this city.
[6] Behold, I will bring it health and cure, and I will cure them, and will reveal unto them the abundance of peace and truth.
[7] And I will cause the captivity of Judah and the captivity of Israel to return, and will build them, as at the first.
[8] And I will cleanse them from all their iniquity, whereby they have sinned against me; and I will pardon all their iniquities, whereby they have sinned, and whereby they have transgressed against me.
[9] And it shall be to me a name of joy, a praise and an honour before all the nations of the earth, which shall hear all the good that I do unto them: and they shall fear and tremble for all the goodness and for all the prosperity that I procure unto it.
[10] Thus saith the LORD; Again there shall be heard in this place, which ye say shall be desolate without man and without beast, even in the cities of Judah, and in the streets of Jerusalem, that are desolate, without man, and without inhabitant, and without beast,
[11] The voice of joy, and the voice of gladness, the voice of the bridegroom, and the voice of the bride, the voice of them that shall say, Praise the LORD of hosts: for the LORD is good; for his mercy endureth for ever: and of them that shall bring the sacrifice of praise into the house of the LORD. For I will cause to return the captivity of the land, as at the first, saith the LORD.
[12] Thus saith the LORD of hosts; Again in this place, which is desolate without man and without beast, and in all the cities thereof, shall be an habitation of shepherds causing their flocks to lie down.
[13] In the cities of the mountains, in the cities of the vale, and in the cities of the south, and in the land of Benjamin, and in the places about Jerusalem, and in the cities of Judah, shall the flocks pass again under the hands of him that telleth them, saith the LORD.
[14] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will perform that good thing which I have promised unto the house of Israel and to the house of Judah.
[15] In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land.
[16] In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The LORD our righteousness.
[17] For thus saith the LORD; David shall never want a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel;
[18] Neither shall the priests the Levites want a man before me to offer burnt offerings, and to kindle meat offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
Ezekiel 11:
[14] Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
[15] Son of man, thy brethren, even thy brethren, the men of thy kindred, and all the house of Israel wholly, are they unto whom the inhabitants of Jerusalem have said, Get you far from the LORD: unto us is this land given in possession.
[16] Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; Although I have cast them far off among the heathen, and although I have scattered them among the countries, yet will I be to them as a little sanctuary in the countries where they shall come.
[17] Therefore say, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will even gather you from the people, and assemble you out of the countries where ye have been scattered, and I will give you the land of Israel.
[18] And they shall come thither, and they shall take away all the detestable things thereof and all the abominations thereof from thence.
[19] And I will give them one heart, and I will put a new spirit within you; and I will take the stony heart out of their flesh, and will give them an heart of flesh:
[20] That they may walk in my statutes, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: and they shall be my people, and I will be their God.
[21] But as for them whose heart walketh after the heart of their detestable things and their abominations, I will recompense their way upon their own heads, saith the Lord GOD.
Ezekiel 36:
[12] Yea, I will cause men to walk upon you, even my people Israel; and they shall possess thee, and thou shalt be their inheritance, and thou shalt no more henceforth bereave them of men.
[13] Thus saith the Lord GOD; Because they say unto you, Thou land devourest up men, and hast bereaved thy nations;
[14] Therefore thou shalt devour men no more, neither bereave thy nations any more, saith the Lord GOD.
[15] Neither will I cause men to hear in thee the shame of the heathen any more, neither shalt thou bear the reproach of the people any more, neither shalt thou cause thy nations to fall any more, saith the Lord GOD.
[16] Moreover the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
[17] Son of man, when the house of Israel dwelt in their own land, they defiled it by their own way and by their doings: their way was before me as the uncleanness of a removed woman.
[18] Wherefore I poured my fury upon them for the blood that they had shed upon the land, and for their idols wherewith they had polluted it:
[19] And I scattered them among the heathen, and they were dispersed through the countries: according to their way and according to their doings I judged them.
[20] And when they entered unto the heathen, whither they went, they profaned my holy name, when they said to them, These are the people of the LORD, and are gone forth out of his land.
[21] But I had pity for mine holy name, which the house of Israel had profaned among the heathen, whither they went.
[22] Therefore say unto the house of Israel, Thus saith the Lord GOD; I do not this for your sakes, O house of Israel, but for mine holy name's sake, which ye have profaned among the heathen, whither ye went.
[23] And I will sanctify my great name, which was profaned among the heathen, which ye have profaned in the midst of them; and the heathen shall know that I am the LORD, saith the Lord GOD, when I shall be sanctified in you before their eyes.
[24] For I will take you from among the heathen, and gather you out of all countries, and will bring you into your own land.
[25] Then will I sprinkle clean water upon you, and ye shall be clean: from all your filthiness, and from all your idols, will I cleanse you.
[26] A new heart also will I give you, and a new spirit will I put within you: and I will take away the stony heart out of your flesh, and I will give you an heart of flesh.
[27] And I will put my spirit within you, and cause you to walk in my statutes, and ye shall keep my judgments, and do them.
[28] And ye shall dwell in the land that I gave to your fathers; and ye shall be my people, and I will be your God.
[29] I will also save you from all your uncleannesses: and I will call for the corn, and will increase it, and lay no famine upon you.
[30] And I will multiply the fruit of the tree, and the increase of the field, that ye shall receive no more reproach of famine among the heathen.
[31] Then shall ye remember your own evil ways, and your doings that were not good, and shall lothe yourselves in your own sight for your iniquities and for your abominations.
[32] Not for your sakes do I this, saith the Lord GOD, be it known unto you: be ashamed and confounded for your own ways, O house of Israel.
[33] Thus saith the Lord GOD; In the day that I shall have cleansed you from all your iniquities I will also cause you to dwell in the cities, and the wastes shall be builded.
[34] And the desolate land shall be tilled, whereas it lay desolate in the sight of all that passed by.
[35] And they shall say, This land that was desolate is become like the garden of Eden; and the waste and desolate and ruined cities are become fenced, and are inhabited.
[36] Then the heathen that are left round about you shall know that I the LORD build the ruined places, and plant that that was desolate: I the LORD have spoken it, and I will do it.
[37] Thus saith the Lord GOD; I will yet for this be inquired of by the house of Israel, to do it for them; I will increase them with men like a flock.
[38] As the holy flock, as the flock of Jerusalem in her solemn feasts; so shall the waste cities be filled with flocks of men: and they shall know that I am the LORD.
(ALSO SEE JOEL CHAPTER 2)
Isaiah 2:
[2] And it shall come to pass in the last days, that the mountain of the LORD's house shall be established in the top of the mountains, and shall be exalted above the hills; and all nations shall flow unto it.
[3] And many people shall go and say, Come ye, and let us go up to the mountain of the LORD, to the house of the God of Jacob; and he will teach us of his ways, and we will walk in his paths: for out of Zion shall go forth the law, and the word of the LORD from Jerusalem.
[4] And he shall judge among the nations, and shall rebuke many people: and they shall beat their swords into plowshares, and their spears into pruninghooks: nation shall not lift up sword against nation, neither shall they learn war any more.
Psalms 2:
[1] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
[3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
[4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
[5] Then shall he speak unto them in his wrath, and vex them in his sore displeasure.
[6] Yet have I set my king upon my holy hill of Zion.
[7] I will declare the decree: the LORD hath said unto me, Thou art my Son; this day have I begotten thee.
[8] Ask of me, and I shall give thee the heathen for thine inheritance, and the uttermost parts of the earth for thy possession.
Genesis 49:10 The sceptre shall not depart from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and unto him shall the gathering of the people be.
Deuteronomy 18:
[15] The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
[16] According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
[17] And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
[18] I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
[19] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.
Isaiah 11:
[1] And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots:
[2] And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD;
[3] And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the LORD: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears:
[4] But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked.
[5] And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins.
[6] The wolf also shall dwell with the lamb, and the leopard shall lie down with the kid; and the calf and the young lion and the fatling together; and a little child shall lead them.
Jeremiah 23:
[3] And I will gather the remnant of my flock out of all countries whither I have driven them, and will bring them again to their folds; and they shall be fruitful and increase.
[4] And I will set up shepherds over them which shall feed them: and they shall fear no more, nor be dismayed, neither shall they be lacking, saith the LORD.
[5] Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth.
[6] In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, THE LORD OUR RIGHTEOUSNESS.
[7] Therefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that they shall no more say, The LORD liveth, which brought up the children of Israel out of the land of Egypt;
[8] But, The LORD liveth, which brought up and which led the seed of the house of Israel out of the north country, and from all countries whither I had driven them; and they shall dwell in their own land.
Isaiah 60:
[1] Arise, shine; for thy light is come, and the glory of the LORD is risen upon thee.
[2] For, behold, the darkness shall cover the earth, and gross darkness the people: but the LORD shall arise upon thee, and his glory shall be seen upon thee.
[3] And the Gentiles shall come to thy light, and kings to the brightness of thy rising.
[4] Lift up thine eyes round about, and see: all they gather themselves together, they come to thee: thy sons shall come from far, and thy daughters shall be nursed at thy side.
[5] Then thou shalt see, and flow together, and thine heart shall fear, and be enlarged; because the abundance of the sea shall be converted unto thee, the forces of the Gentiles shall come unto thee.
[6] The multitude of camels shall cover thee, the dromedaries of Midian and Ephah; all they from Sheba shall come: they shall bring gold and incense; and they shall shew forth the praises of the LORD.
[7] All the flocks of Kedar shall be gathered together unto thee, the rams of Nebaioth shall minister unto thee: they shall come up with acceptance on mine altar, and I will glorify the house of my glory.
[8] Who are these that fly as a cloud, and as the doves to their windows?
[9] Surely the isles shall wait for me, and the ships of Tarshish first, to bring thy sons from far, their silver and their gold with them, unto the name of the LORD thy God, and to the Holy One of Israel, because he hath glorified thee.
[10] And the sons of strangers shall build up thy walls, and their kings shall minister unto thee: for in my wrath I smote thee, but in my favour have I had mercy on thee.
[11] Therefore thy gates shall be open continually; they shall not be shut day nor night; that men may bring unto thee the forces of the Gentiles, and that their kings may be brought.
[12] For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish; yea, those nations shall be utterly wasted.
[13] The glory of Lebanon shall come unto thee, the fir tree, the pine tree, and the box together, to beautify the place of my sanctuary; and I will make the place of my feet glorious.
[14] The sons also of them that afflicted thee shall come bending unto thee; and all they that despised thee shall bow themselves down at the soles of thy feet; and they shall call thee, The city of the LORD, The Zion of the Holy One of Israel.
[15] Whereas thou hast been forsaken and hated, so that no man went through thee, I will make thee an eternal excellency, a joy of many generations.
[16] Thou shalt also suck the milk of the Gentiles, and shalt suck the breast of kings: and thou shalt know that I the LORD am thy Saviour and thy Redeemer, the mighty One of Jacob.
[17] For brass I will bring gold, and for iron I will bring silver, and for wood brass, and for stones iron: I will also make thy officers peace, and thine exactors righteousness.
[18] Violence shall no more be heard in thy land, wasting nor destruction within thy borders; but thou shalt call thy walls Salvation, and thy gates Praise.
[19] The sun shall be no more thy light by day; neither for brightness shall the moon give light unto thee: but the LORD shall be unto thee an everlasting light, and thy God thy glory.
[20] Thy sun shall no more go down; neither shall thy moon withdraw itself: for the LORD shall be thine everlasting light, and the days of thy mourning shall be ended.
[21] Thy people also shall be all righteous: they shall inherit the land for ever, the branch of my planting, the work of my hands, that I may be glorified.
[22] A little one shall become a thousand, and a small one a strong nation: I the LORD will hasten it in his time.
Isaiah 61:
[6] But ye shall be named the Priests of the LORD: men shall call you the Ministers of our God: ye shall eat the riches of the Gentiles, and in their glory shall ye boast yourselves.
[7] For your shame ye shall have double; and for confusion they shall rejoice in their portion: therefore in their land they shall possess the double: everlasting joy shall be unto them.
[8] For I the LORD love judgment, I hate robbery for burnt offering; and I will direct their work in truth, and I will make an everlasting covenant with them.
[9] And their seed shall be known among the Gentiles, and their offspring among the people: all that see them shall acknowledge them, that they are the seed which the LORD hath blessed.
[10] I will greatly rejoice in the LORD, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels.
[11] For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth; so the Lord GOD will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all the nations.
Exodus 19:6 And ye shall be unto me a kingdom of priests, and an holy nation. These are the words which thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel.
Hosea 1:
[5] And it shall come to pass at that day, that I will break the bow of Israel in the valley of Jezreel.
[6] And she conceived again, and bare a daughter. And God said unto him, Call her name Lo-ruhamah: for I will no more have mercy upon the house of Israel; but I will utterly take them away.
[7] But I will have mercy upon the house of Judah, and will save them by the LORD their God, and will not save them by bow, nor by sword, nor by battle, by horses, nor by horsemen.
[8] Now when she had weaned Lo-ruhamah, she conceived, and bare a son.
[9] Then said God, Call his name Lo-ammi: for ye are not my people, and I will not be your God.
[10] Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.
[11] Then shall the children of Judah and the children of Israel be gathered together, and appoint themselves one head, and they shall come up out of the land: for great shall be the day of Jezreel.
All those prophecies say that God will punish Israel and scatter them among the heathen nations, a remnant will be saved out of the tribulation, the Lord will come and re-gather His people to Israel, then He will take away their sins and give them a new heart/spirit and He will cause them to keep the law. Christ will be reigning from Jerusalem and all the Gentile nations will serve Israel in the Kingdom. The Gentiles must bless Israel in order to be blessed. We saw this in Isaiah 60:12 "For the nation and kingdom that will not serve thee shall perish " but also a prophecy of this in Genesis 12:2-3, "And I will make of thee a great nation, and I will bless thee, and make thy name great; and thou shalt be a blessing: And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. "
That is the main focus of Old Testament prophecy. And those Old Testament prophecies were not postponed when Christ came to earth as a baby. In fact, Christ was offering the kingdom to Israel during His earthly ministry and the 12 apostles continued to offer Israel the Kingdom in early Acts even after the resurrection of Christ.
Luke 1:
[30] And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God.
[31] And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS.
[32] He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:
[33] And he shall reign over the house of Jacob for ever; and of his kingdom there shall be no end.
Matthew 3:
[1] In those days came John the Baptist, preaching in the wilderness of Judaea,
[2] And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Matthew 10:
[1] And when he had called unto him his twelve disciples, he gave them power against unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal all manner of sickness and all manner of disease.
[2] Now the names of the twelve apostles are these; The first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zebedee, and John his brother;
[3] Philip, and Bartholomew; Thomas, and Matthew the publican; James the son of Alphaeus, and Lebbaeus, whose surname was Thaddaeus;
[4] Simon the Canaanite, and Judas Iscariot, who also betrayed him.
[5] These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
[6] But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[7] And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
[8] Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
[9] Provide neither gold, nor silver, nor brass in your purses,
[10] Nor scrip for your journey, neither two coats, neither shoes, nor yet staves: for the workman is worthy of his meat.
[11] And into whatsoever city or town ye shall enter, inquire who in it is worthy; and there abide till ye go thence.
[12] And when ye come into an house, salute it.
[13] And if the house be worthy, let your peace come upon it: but if it be not worthy, let your peace return to you.
[14] And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.
[15] Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for the land of Sodom and Gomorrha in the day of judgment, than for that city.
[16] Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves.
[17] But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues;
[18] And ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles.
[19] But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak.
[20] For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
[21] And the brother shall deliver up the brother to death, and the father the child: and the children shall rise up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death.
[22] And ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake: but he that endureth to the end shall be saved.
[23] But when they persecute you in this city, flee ye into another: for verily I say unto you, Ye shall not have gone over the cities of Israel, till the Son of man be come.
[24] The disciple is not above his master, nor the servant above his lord.
[25] It is enough for the disciple that he be as his master, and the servant as his lord. If they have called the master of the house Beelzebub, how much more shall they call them of his household?
[26] Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known.
[27] What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the housetops.
[28] And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell.
[29] Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.
[30] But the very hairs of your head are all numbered.
[31] Fear ye not therefore, ye are of more value than many sparrows.
[32] Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
[33] But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[34] Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
Mark 1:15 And saying, The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: repent ye, and believe the gospel.
Luke 21:
[31] So likewise ye, when ye see these things come to pass, know ye that the kingdom of God is nigh at hand.
[32] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.
Matthew 24:
[1] And Jesus went out, and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him for to shew him the buildings of the temple.
[2] And Jesus said unto them, See ye not all these things? verily I say unto you, There shall not be left here one stone upon another, that shall not be thrown down.
[3] And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
[4] And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
[5] For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many.
[6] And ye shall hear of wars and rumours of wars: see that ye be not troubled: for all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet.
[7] For nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom: and there shall be famines, and pestilences, and earthquakes, in divers places.
[8] All these are the beginning of sorrows.
[9] Then shall they deliver you up to be afflicted, and shall kill you: and ye shall be hated of all nations for my name's sake.
[10] And then shall many be offended, and shall betray one another, and shall hate one another.
[11] And many false prophets shall rise, and shall deceive many.
[12] And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.
[13] But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved.
[14] And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come.
[15] When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:)
[16] Then let them which be in Judaea flee into the mountains:
[17] Let him which is on the housetop not come down to take any thing out of his house:
[18] Neither let him which is in the field return back to take his clothes.
[19] And woe unto them that are with child, and to them that give suck in those days!
[20] But pray ye that your flight be not in the winter, neither on the sabbath day:
[21] For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be.
[22] And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
[23] Then if any man shall say unto you, Lo, here is Christ, or there; believe it not.
[24] For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect.
[25] Behold, I have told you before.
[26] Wherefore if they shall say unto you, Behold, he is in the desert; go not forth: behold, he is in the secret chambers; believe it not.
[27] For as the lightning cometh out of the east, and shineth even unto the west; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[28] For wheresoever the carcase is, there will the eagles be gathered together.
[29] Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:
[30] And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory.
[31] And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.
[32] Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and putteth forth leaves, ye know that summer is nigh:
[33] So likewise ye, when ye shall see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors.
[34] Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled.
[35] Heaven and earth shall pass away, but my words shall not pass away.
[36] But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.
[37] But as the days of Noe were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[38] For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark,
[39] And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.
[40] Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
[41] Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
[42] Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come.
[43] But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up.
[44] Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh.
[45] Who then is a faithful and wise servant, whom his lord hath made ruler over his household, to give them meat in due season?
[46] Blessed is that servant, whom his lord when he cometh shall find so doing.
Matthew 15:
[21] Then Jesus went thence, and departed into the coasts of Tyre and Sidon.
[22] And, behold, a woman of Canaan came out of the same coasts, and cried unto him, saying, Have mercy on me, O Lord, thou Son of David; my daughter is grievously vexed with a devil.
[23] But he answered her not a word. And his disciples came and besought him, saying, Send her away; for she crieth after us.
[24] But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
[25] Then came she and worshipped him, saying, Lord, help me.
[26] But he answered and said, It is not meet to take the children's bread, and to cast it to dogs.
[27] And she said, Truth, Lord: yet the dogs eat of the crumbs which fall from their masters' table.
Matthew 19:
[27] Then answered Peter and said unto him, Behold, we have forsaken all, and followed thee; what shall we have therefore?
[28] And Jesus said unto them, Verily I say unto you, That ye which have followed me, in the regeneration when the Son of man shall sit in the throne of his glory, ye also shall sit upon twelve thrones, judging the twelve tribes of Israel.
[29] And every one that hath forsaken houses, or brethren, or sisters, or father, or mother, or wife, or children, or lands, for my name's sake, shall receive an hundredfold, and shall inherit everlasting life.
[30] But many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first.
Matthew 25:
[31] When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:
[32] And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:
[33] And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.
[34] Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:
[35] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:
[36] Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.
[37] Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?
[38] When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?
[39] Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?
[40] And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.
[41] Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:
[42] For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:
[43] I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.
[44] Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?
[45] Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.
[46] And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.
Matthew 4:23 And Jesus went about all Galilee, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing all manner of sickness and all manner of disease among the people.
Matthew 9:35 And Jesus went about all the cities and villages, teaching in their synagogues, and preaching the gospel of the kingdom, and healing every sickness and every disease among the people.
Mark 1:14 Now after that John was put in prison, Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of the kingdom of God,
Acts 1:
[4] And, being assembled together with them, commanded them that they should not depart from Jerusalem, but wait for the promise of the Father, which, saith he, ye have heard of me.
[5] For John truly baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost not many days hence.
[6] When they therefore were come together, they asked of him, saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel?
[7] And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.
[8] But ye shall receive power, after that the Holy Ghost is come upon you: and ye shall be witnesses unto me both in Jerusalem, and in all Judaea, and in Samaria, and unto the uttermost part of the earth.
Acts 2:
[14] But Peter, standing up with the eleven, lifted up his voice, and said unto them, Ye men of Judaea, and all ye that dwell at Jerusalem, be this known unto you, and hearken to my words:
[15] For these are not drunken, as ye suppose, seeing it is but the third hour of the day.
[16] But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
[17] And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God,I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
[18] And on my servants and on my handmaidens I will pour out in those days of my Spirit; and they shall prophesy:
[19] And I will shew wonders in heaven above, and signs in the earth beneath; blood, and fire, and vapour of smoke:
[20] The sun shall be turned into darkness, and the moon into blood, before that great and notable day of the Lord come:
[21] And it shall come to pass, that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved.
[22] Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know:
[23] Him, being delivered by the determinate counsel and foreknowledge of God, ye have taken, and by wicked hands have crucified and slain:
[24] Whom God hath raised up, having loosed the pains of death: because it was not possible that he should be holden of it.
[25] For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved:
[26] Therefore did my heart rejoice, and my tongue was glad; moreover also my flesh shall rest in hope:
[27] Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption.
[28] Thou hast made known to me the ways of life; thou shalt make me full of joy with thy countenance.
[29] Men and brethren, let me freely speak unto you of the patriarch David, that he is both dead and buried, and his sepulchre is with us unto this day.
[30] Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
[31] He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
[32] This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
[33] Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
[34] For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
[35] Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
[36] Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
Acts 3:
[19] Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
[20] And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
[21] Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
[22] For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
[23] And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.
[24] Yea, and all the prophets from Samuel and those that follow after, as many as have spoken, have likewise foretold of these days.
[25] Ye are the children of the prophets, and of the covenant which God made with our fathers, saying unto Abraham, And in thy seed shall all the kindreds of the earth be blessed.
1 Peter 1:
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
[11] Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
1 Peter 2:
[5] Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
[6] Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
2 Peter 3:
[12] Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
[13] Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
[14] Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
1 Peter 4:
[13] But rejoice, inasmuch as ye are partakers of Christ's sufferings; that, when his glory shall be revealed, ye may be glad also with exceeding joy.
[14] If ye be reproached for the name of Christ, happy are ye; for the spirit of glory and of God resteth upon you: on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
[15] But let none of you suffer as a murderer, or as a thief, or as an evildoer, or as a busybody in other men's matters.
[16] Yet if any man suffer as a Christian, let him not be ashamed; but let him glorify God on this behalf.
[17] For the time is come that judgment must begin at the house of God: and if it first begin at us, what shall the end be of them that obey not the gospel of God?
[18] And if the righteous scarcely be saved, where shall the ungodly and the sinner appear?
[19] Wherefore let them that suffer according to the will of God commit the keeping of their souls to him in well doing, as unto a faithful Creator.
1 John 2:
[13] I write unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I write unto you, young men, because ye have overcome the wicked one. I write unto you, little children, because ye have known the Father.
[14] I have written unto you, fathers, because ye have known him that is from the beginning. I have written unto you, young men, because ye are strong, and the word of God abideth in you, and ye have overcome the wicked one.
1 John 2:
[18] Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
[19] They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
1 John 4:
[2] Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesseth that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God:
[3] And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.
[4] Ye are of God, little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you, than he that is in the world.
1 John 5:16 If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it.
1 John 5:18 We know that whosoever is born of God sinneth not; but he that is begotten of God keepeth himself, and that wicked one toucheth him not.
Jude 1:21 Keep yourselves in the love of God, looking for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ unto eternal life.
Revelation 1:
[6] And hath made us kings and priests unto God and his Father; to him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
[7] Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.
[8] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.
[9] I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
[10] I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
Revelation 2:
[7] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the tree of life, which is in the midst of the paradise of God.
[8] And unto the angel of the church in Smyrna write; These things saith the first and the last, which was dead, and is alive;
[9] I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
[10] Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life.
[11] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; He that overcometh shall not be hurt of the second death.
[12] And to the angel of the church in Pergamos write; These things saith he which hath the sharp sword with two edges;
[13] I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.
[14] But I have a few things against thee, because thou hast there them that hold the doctrine of Balaam, who taught Balac to cast a stumblingblock before the children of Israel, to eat things sacrificed unto idols, and to commit fornication.
[15] So hast thou also them that hold the doctrine of the Nicolaitans, which thing I hate.
[16] Repent; or else I will come unto thee quickly, and will fight against them with the sword of my mouth.
[17] He that hath an ear, let him hear what the Spirit saith unto the churches; To him that overcometh will I give to eat of the hidden manna, and will give him a white stone, and in the stone a new name written, which no man knoweth saving he that receiveth it.
Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations:
Revelation 3:5 He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
Revelation 3:12 Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of my God, and he shall go no more out: and I will write upon him the name of my God, and the name of the city of my God, which is new Jerusalem, which cometh down out of heaven from my God: and I will write upon him my new name.
Revelation 3:21 To him that overcometh will I grant to sit with me in my throne, even as I also overcame, and am set down with my Father in his throne.
Revelation 5:
[8] And when he had taken the book, the four beasts and four and twenty elders fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of saints.
[9] And they sung a new song, saying, Thou art worthy to take the book, and to open the seals thereof: for thou wast slain, and hast redeemed us to God by thy blood out of every kindred, and tongue, and people, and nation;
[10] And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth.
Revelation 21:
[7] He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
[8] But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Revelation 22:
[12] And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be.
[13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last.
[14] Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city.
Revelation 14:
[9] And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand,
[10] The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is poured out without mixture into the cup of his indignation; and he shall be tormented with fire and brimstone in the presence of the holy angels, and in the presence of the Lamb:
[11] And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name.
[12] Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.
As you can see from the scriptures, MOST of the New Testament is not written about us. It is written about Israel and is giving doctrine for the tribulation period and the Kingdom of Heaven on earth. I tried to underline my focus for each scripture I gave, but you should read over all of them.
Notice that the believing Jews that go through the tribulation will have to "overcome" and "endure" to the end without denying Christ's name in order to be saved.
Notice that Israel's sins will be blotted out at the 2nd coming of Christ.
Notice that the believing Jews must overcome the antichrist to be able to sit with Christ in the Kingdom on earth.
Notice that the Gentiles will get blessed through Israel's RISE and POWER in the Kingdom of Heaven.
Notice that the gospel being preached is the "gospel of the kingdom".
That stuff is NOT talking about us in this present age. We are NOT preaching the "gospel of the kingdom", we are NOT going through the great tribulation, we are NOT going to get blessed through the rise of Israel in the Kingdom of Heaven, we are NOT waiting for redemption at the 2nd coming of Christ!
The Old Testament is not talking about us, Matthew--John is not talking about us, and Hebrews--Revelation is not talking about us. Now of course there are lots of things in those books that DO APPLY TO US, but a lot of it does not.
We are not part of God's plan/program for Israel that we find in the Old Testament. Our program was a mystery hid in God until revealed to Paul.
Here is what happened: Israel would not accept the kingdom offer that was being given in Acts 1-8, so Christ appeared to Saul of Tarsus (a leader in persecuting His people) and saved him. Then He gave Saul a new gospel called "the gospel of the grace of God" and then revealed to him mystery doctrines that had not been revealed to anyone else in the Bible. Don't believe me? See for yourself!
Galatians 1:
[11] But I certify you, brethren, that the gospel which was preached of me is not after man.
[12] For I neither received it of man, neither was I taught it, but by the revelation of Jesus Christ.
1 Corinthians 15:
[1] Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand;
[2] By which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have believed in vain.
[3] For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures;
[4] And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures:
Romans 16:25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
1 Corinthians 2:
[7] But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, even the hidden wisdom, which God ordained before the world unto our glory:
[8] Which none of the princes of this world knew: for had they known it, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory.
Acts 20:24 But none of these things move me, neither count I my life dear unto myself, so that I might finish my course with joy, and the ministry, which I have received of the Lord Jesus, to testify the gospel of the grace of God.
After Paul received that mystery-gospel, he became the pattern to all those that would believe the gospel after him....1 Timothy 1:11-16 says: "According to the glorious gospel of the blessed God, which was committed to my trust. And I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who hath enabled me, for that he counted me faithful, putting me into the ministry; Who was before a blasphemer, and a persecutor, and injurious: but I obtained mercy, because I did it ignorantly in unbelief. And the grace of our Lord was exceeding abundant with faith and love which is in Christ Jesus. This is a faithful saying, and worthy of all acceptation, that Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners; of whom I am chief. Howbeit for this cause I obtained mercy, that in me first Jesus Christ might shew forth all longsuffering, for a pattern to them which should hereafter believe on him to life everlasting. "
This new gospel does not specifically benefit Jews, unlike the gospel of the kingdom, which was specifically about the Jews and their prophesied kingdom. In fact, the revelations and mysteries that Christ gave to Paul are mainly for the GENTILES WITHOUT ISRAEL. The new gospel gives the Gentiles the opportunity to be of the same spiritual body and a heavenly inheritance by the gospel--not by blessing Israel.
Ephesians 3:
[1] For this cause I Paul, the prisoner of Jesus Christ for you Gentiles,
[2] If ye have heard of the dispensation of the grace of God which is given me to youward:
[3] How that by revelation he made known unto me the mystery; (as I wrote afore in few words,
[4] Whereby, when ye read, ye may understand my knowledge in the mystery of Christ)
[5] Which in other ages was not made known unto the sons of men, as it is now revealed unto his holy apostles and prophets by the Spirit;
[6] That the Gentiles should be fellowheirs, and of the same body, and partakers of his promise in Christ by the gospel:
[7] Whereof I was made a minister, according to the gift of the grace of God given unto me by the effectual working of his power.
[8] Unto me, who am less than the least of all saints, is this grace given, that I should preach among the Gentiles the unsearchable riches of Christ;
[9] And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:
Colossians 1:
[24] Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up that which is behind of the afflictions of Christ in my flesh for his body's sake, which is the church:
[25] Whereof I am made a minister, according to the dispensation of God which is given to me for you, to fulfil the word of God;
[26] Even the mystery which hath been hid from ages and from generations, but now is made manifest to his saints:
[27] To whom God would make known what is the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles; which is Christ in you, the hope of glory:
[28] Whom we preach, warning every man, and teaching every man in all wisdom; that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus:
[29] Whereunto I also labour, striving according to his working, which worketh in me mightily.
1 Corinthians 4:1 Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and stewards of the mysteries of God.
Ephesians 1:
[7] In whom we have redemption through his blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of his grace;
[8] Wherein he hath abounded toward us in all wisdom and prudence;
[9] Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:
Christ revealed to Paul that Israel has now fallen and is blinded until the fulness of the Gentiles is come in. Romans 11 deals with the fall and blindness of Israel--it says that the Gentiles are blessed through Israel's FALL (instead of their rise in the kingdom). However, Israel will still be saved at the 2nd coming, that has just been postponed.
Romans 11:
[1] I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
[2] God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
[3] Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
[4] But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
[5] Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
[6] And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
[7] What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
[8] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
[9] And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumbling block, and a recompence unto them:
[10] Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
[11] I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
[12] Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
[13] For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
[14] If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
[15] For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
Israel had fallen and Christ made Paul THE apostle of the Gentiles. He was given the "gospel of the UNCIRCUMCISION" and revealed that we are not under the law but under grace.
Galatians 2:
[7] But contrariwise, when they saw that the gospel of the uncircumcision was committed unto me, as the gospel of the circumcision was unto Peter;
[8] (For he that wrought effectually in Peter to the apostleship of the circumcision, the same was mighty in me toward the Gentiles:)
The main distinction between the gospel pertaining to the Gentiles (uncircumcision) and the gospel pertaining to the Jews (circumcision) is that the gospel of the grace of God does NOT require works like the gospel of the kingdom did.
Galatians 2:
[11] But when Peter was come to Antioch, I withstood him to the face, because he was to be blamed.
[12] For before that certain came from James, he did eat with the Gentiles: but when they were come, he withdrew and separated himself, fearing them which were of the circumcision.
[13] And the other Jews dissembled likewise with him; insomuch that Barnabas also was carried away with their dissimulation.
[14] But when I saw that they walked not uprightly according to the truth of the gospel, I said unto Peter before them all, If thou, being a Jew, livest after the manner of Gentiles, and not as do the Jews, why compellest thou the Gentiles to live as do the Jews?
[15] We who are Jews by nature, and not sinners of the Gentiles,
[16] Knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the law, but by the faith of Jesus Christ, even we have believed in Jesus Christ, that we might be justified by the faith of Christ, and not by the works of the law: for by the works of the law shall no flesh be justified.
[17] But if, while we seek to be justified by Christ, we ourselves also are found sinners, is therefore Christ the minister of sin? God forbid.
[18] For if I build again the things which I destroyed, I make myself a transgressor.
[19] For I through the law am dead to the law, that I might live unto God.
[20] I am crucified with Christ: nevertheless I live; yet not I, but Christ liveth in me: and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by the faith of the Son of God, who loved me, and gave himself for me.
[21] I do not frustrate the grace of God: for if righteousness come by the law, then Christ is dead in vain.
Galatians 3:
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Also, the gospel of the grace of God allows a sinner to be COMPLETELY SAVED INSTANTLY, you do not have to wait for the 2nd coming of Christ.
Acts 13:
[38] Be it known unto you therefore, men and brethren, that through this man is preached unto you the forgiveness of sins:
[39] And by him all that believe are justified from all things, from which ye could not be justified by the law of Moses.
Romans 5:
[8] But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
[9] Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him.
[10] For if, when we were enemies, we were reconciled to God by the death of his Son, much more, being reconciled, we shall be saved by his life.
[11] And not only so, but we also joy in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, by whom we have now received the atonement.
Romans 6:14 For sin shall not have dominion over you: for ye are not under the law, but under grace.
Israel must wait until the 2nd coming after they go through the tribulation.....
Romans 11:
[25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
[28] As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes.
[29] For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
[30] For as ye in times past have not believed God, yet have now obtained mercy through their unbelief:
[31] Even so have these also now not believed, that through your mercy they also may obtain mercy.
[32] For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Another distinction of God's program for the Gentiles is that He will return for them to meet them in the AIR and rapture them out BEFORE the tribulation--His wrath on Israel. This rapture is a "mystery" "by the word of the Lord".
1 Corinthians 15:
[51] Behold, I shew you a mystery; We shall not all sleep, but we shall all be changed,
[52] In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed.
[53] For this corruptible must put on incorruption, and this mortal must put on immortality.
[54] So when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory.
[55] O death, where is thy sting? O grave, where is thy victory?
[56] The sting of death is sin; and the strength of sin is the law.
[57] But thanks be to God, which giveth us the victory through our Lord Jesus Christ.
1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead, even Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.
1 Thessalonians 4:
[13] But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.
[14] For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
[15] For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
[16] For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
[17] Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.
[18] Wherefore comfort one another with these words.
1 Thessalonians 5:9 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,
Philippians 3:
[20] For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
[21] Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to subdue all things unto himself.
Another distinction between God's program for Israel in the Kingdom and that of the Gentiles in this present age is that we Gentiles are baptized by the Holy Spirit into Christ and are members of His body.
1 Corinthians 6:
[15] Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid.
[16] What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh.
[17] But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit.
1 Corinthians 10:
[16] The cup of blessing which we bless, is it not the communion of the blood of Christ? The bread which we break, is it not the communion of the body of Christ?
[17] For we being many are one bread, and one body: for we are all partakers of that one bread.
1 Corinthians 12:
[12] For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ.
[13] For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
Ephesians 5:
[22] Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord.
[23] For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body.
[24] Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.
[25] Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it;
[26] That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word,
[27] That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.
[28] So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself.
[29] For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:
[30] For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
[31] For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
[32] This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
Because we are "members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones " we also have eternal security and cannot lose salvation! We do not have to "overcome" or "endure to the end"! Our salvation is not in jeopardy if we were to lose our faith in Christ and deny Him, because even if we are not faithful, Christ is ALWAYS faithful and will not deny us.....
2 Timothy 2:
[11] It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
Ephesians 1:
[13] In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise,
[14] Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory.
Ephesians 2:
[8] For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
[9] Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Ephesians 3:12 In whom we have boldness and access with confidence by the faith of him.
Ephesians 3:17 That Christ may dwell in your hearts by faith; that ye, being rooted and grounded in love,
Ephesians 4:30 And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
One more distinction of God's program for Gentiles in this age is that our blessings are in HEAVEN not on the earth like Israel's will be.
Colossians 1:
[12] Giving thanks unto the Father, which hath made us meet to be partakers of the inheritance of the saints in light:
[13] Who hath delivered us from the power of darkness, and hath translated us into the kingdom of his dear Son:
[14] In whom we have redemption through his blood, even the forgiveness of sins:
Philippians 3:
[20] For our conversation is in heaven; from whence also we look for the Saviour, the Lord Jesus Christ:
[21]
Who shall change our vile body, that it may be fashioned like unto his
glorious body, according to the working whereby he is able even to
subdue all things unto himself.
Ephesians 1:3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who hath blessed us with all spiritual blessings in heavenly places in Christ:
Ephesians 2:
[5] Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved;)
[6] And hath raised us up together, and made us sit together in heavenly places in Christ Jesus:
[7] That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus.
We do not have to "overcome" the antichrist to get to set and reign with Christ--we are ALREADY SEATED!
Paul is our apostles (Romans 11:13) and we are told to follow him and look at what he wrote to have understanding in all things (1 Cor. 4:16, 11:1-2, 2 Tim. 2:7, Phil. 3:17). Paul wrote to the Gentiles in this age and it is the Pauline epistles that are written directly TO us doctrinally.
--Eli "Hoss" Caldwell
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Wednesday, December 17, 2014
Reply to comment in regards to James 2 (faith+works)
Sure, feel free to comment as much as you like. As I said I enjoy it. Also we can discuss through email if you like. hosscartwright1611@gmail.com
The Bible defines believing as NOT being a work (Rom. 4:5, Eph. 2:8-9). Therefore "believing" is not "earning" the "free gift".....it is RECIVING the gift.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Someone can offer you a "free gift" (Rom. 5:v15, v16, v18) but if you say "I don't want this" then you "receive it not" and reject the gift. You do not have to work for a free gift, but you do have to receive it according to John 1:12 + logic. :)
You said, "Believing or faith without works is DEAD, it's useless, just as James has said, therefore it's works."......James was written to the 12 tribes scattered abroad (James 1:1) before the revelations of the mystery and the gospel of the uncircumcision which were revealed to Paul first by Christ (Gal. 1:11-12, 2:7-8, 1 Tim. 1:11-16, Rom. 16:25, 1 Cor. 4:1, Eph. 3:1-9). James 5:1-11 shows that it is written in the context of the scattered Jews in the tribulation enduring to the end. They are waiting for the 2nd coming of Christ and condemning the rich men for hoarding money for the "last days". The rich men are condemned in the book of James because in the tribulation period you CANNOT be rich and be saved because in order to have riches you also have to have the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:17 )
James 5:
[1] Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
[2] Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
[3] Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
[4] Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
[5] Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.
[6] Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
[7] Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
[8] Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
[9] Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
[10] Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
[11] Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
Revelation 6:
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
The reason James says that a man is not justified by faith, but by faith plus works is because he (and the other 11 apostles) were told that they would be going through the great tribulation and would have to endure to the end of it without denying the true Christ (Matthew 10:1-34, 24:3-34).
Which is also why you will find Peter preaching that redemption comes at the 2nd coming of Christ and establishment of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth....
Acts 3:
[19] Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
[20] And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
[21] Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
1 Peter 1:
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
Which is in fulfillment of OT prophecy as found in Jeremiah 31:31-40, 32:36-42, 33:3-9, Ezekiel 11:14-21, 36:12-35.
And since tribulation salvation will be based on an enduring faith, that is also why some people will "scarcely be saved" according to 1 Peter 4:18.
However, in the "day of salvation" "under grace" (Rom. 6:14, 2 Cor. 1:1-2) which is to say the present age: we are not saved by an enduring faith. We are not going through the tribulation and we will still be saved even if we deny the Lord.
2 Timothy 2:
[11] It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
We can lose rewards and inheritance, but not salvation because for Christ to deny us salvation would be to "deny himself"--because we are "members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones" (Eph. 5:30).
I am about to do a blog post along those topics ("rightly dividing the word of truth" 2 Tim. 2:15) and so that is enough of that for now.
So no, belief does not "become a work" and it is not a work. Believing in not a work according to Romans 4:5 and Ephesians 2:8-9 as I stated in previous comments. Believing is not "earning" a gift, it is "receiving" a gift (John 1:12).
By the way, James 2 did not say that faith was a work, it said that faith without works is dead--because it doesn't cloth the poor or feed the hungry (James 2:15). Which is also another proof that James was written to future tribulation believers--the followers of Christ will not be able to buy or sell which would make them very poor. That is why Christ commanded them to have all things common and sell all that they had (Matt. 18:19, Matthew 19:16-23, Mark 10:21, Luke 12:21-33, Mark 6:7-9, Matthew 6:11, Matthew 6:25-34, Luke 9:1-4, Acts 2:44-46, Acts 3:2-6, Acts 4:32-37, Acts 5:1-11). However, Paul told us to work on our own and not eat other peoples bread and to mind our own business (2 Thes. 3:7-12).
Thanks, --bro. Eli "Hoss" Caldwell
The Bible defines believing as NOT being a work (Rom. 4:5, Eph. 2:8-9). Therefore "believing" is not "earning" the "free gift".....it is RECIVING the gift.
John 1:12 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name
Someone can offer you a "free gift" (Rom. 5:v15, v16, v18) but if you say "I don't want this" then you "receive it not" and reject the gift. You do not have to work for a free gift, but you do have to receive it according to John 1:12 + logic. :)
You said, "Believing or faith without works is DEAD, it's useless, just as James has said, therefore it's works."......James was written to the 12 tribes scattered abroad (James 1:1) before the revelations of the mystery and the gospel of the uncircumcision which were revealed to Paul first by Christ (Gal. 1:11-12, 2:7-8, 1 Tim. 1:11-16, Rom. 16:25, 1 Cor. 4:1, Eph. 3:1-9). James 5:1-11 shows that it is written in the context of the scattered Jews in the tribulation enduring to the end. They are waiting for the 2nd coming of Christ and condemning the rich men for hoarding money for the "last days". The rich men are condemned in the book of James because in the tribulation period you CANNOT be rich and be saved because in order to have riches you also have to have the mark of the beast (Rev. 13:17 )
James 5:
[1] Go to now, ye rich men, weep and howl for your miseries that shall come upon you.
[2] Your riches are corrupted, and your garments are motheaten.
[3] Your gold and silver is cankered; and the rust of them shall be a witness against you, and shall eat your flesh as it were fire. Ye have heaped treasure together for the last days.
[4] Behold, the hire of the labourers who have reaped down your fields, which is of you kept back by fraud, crieth: and the cries of them which have reaped are entered into the ears of the Lord of sabaoth.
[5] Ye have lived in pleasure on the earth, and been wanton; ye have nourished your hearts, as in a day of slaughter.
[6] Ye have condemned and killed the just; and he doth not resist you.
[7] Be patient therefore, brethren, unto the coming of the Lord. Behold, the husbandman waiteth for the precious fruit of the earth, and hath long patience for it, until he receive the early and latter rain.
[8] Be ye also patient; stablish your hearts: for the coming of the Lord draweth nigh.
[9] Grudge not one against another, brethren, lest ye be condemned: behold, the judge standeth before the door.
[10] Take, my brethren, the prophets, who have spoken in the name of the Lord, for an example of suffering affliction, and of patience.
[11] Behold, we count them happy which endure. Ye have heard of the patience of Job, and have seen the end of the Lord; that the Lord is very pitiful, and of tender mercy.
Revelation 6:
[12] And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood;
[13] And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind.
[14] And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places.
[15] And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains;
[16] And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:
[17] For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?
The reason James says that a man is not justified by faith, but by faith plus works is because he (and the other 11 apostles) were told that they would be going through the great tribulation and would have to endure to the end of it without denying the true Christ (Matthew 10:1-34, 24:3-34).
Which is also why you will find Peter preaching that redemption comes at the 2nd coming of Christ and establishment of the Kingdom of Heaven on earth....
Acts 3:
[19] Repent ye therefore, and be converted, that your sins may be blotted out, when the times of refreshing shall come from the presence of the Lord;
[20] And he shall send Jesus Christ, which before was preached unto you:
[21] Whom the heaven must receive until the times of restitution of all things, which God hath spoken by the mouth of all his holy prophets since the world began.
1 Peter 1:
[3] Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, which according to his abundant mercy hath begotten us again unto a lively hope by the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead,
[4] To an inheritance incorruptible, and undefiled, and that fadeth not away, reserved in heaven for you,
[5] Who are kept by the power of God through faith unto salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
[6] Wherein ye greatly rejoice, though now for a season, if need be, ye are in heaviness through manifold temptations:
[7] That the trial of your faith, being much more precious than of gold that perisheth, though it be tried with fire, might be found unto praise and honour and glory at the appearing of Jesus Christ:
[8] Whom having not seen, ye love; in whom, though now ye see him not, yet believing, ye rejoice with joy unspeakable and full of glory:
[9] Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls.
[10] Of which salvation the prophets have inquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you:
Which is in fulfillment of OT prophecy as found in Jeremiah 31:31-40, 32:36-42, 33:3-9, Ezekiel 11:14-21, 36:12-35.
And since tribulation salvation will be based on an enduring faith, that is also why some people will "scarcely be saved" according to 1 Peter 4:18.
However, in the "day of salvation" "under grace" (Rom. 6:14, 2 Cor. 1:1-2) which is to say the present age: we are not saved by an enduring faith. We are not going through the tribulation and we will still be saved even if we deny the Lord.
2 Timothy 2:
[11] It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
We can lose rewards and inheritance, but not salvation because for Christ to deny us salvation would be to "deny himself"--because we are "members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones" (Eph. 5:30).
I am about to do a blog post along those topics ("rightly dividing the word of truth" 2 Tim. 2:15) and so that is enough of that for now.
So no, belief does not "become a work" and it is not a work. Believing in not a work according to Romans 4:5 and Ephesians 2:8-9 as I stated in previous comments. Believing is not "earning" a gift, it is "receiving" a gift (John 1:12).
By the way, James 2 did not say that faith was a work, it said that faith without works is dead--because it doesn't cloth the poor or feed the hungry (James 2:15). Which is also another proof that James was written to future tribulation believers--the followers of Christ will not be able to buy or sell which would make them very poor. That is why Christ commanded them to have all things common and sell all that they had (Matt. 18:19, Matthew 19:16-23, Mark 10:21, Luke 12:21-33, Mark 6:7-9, Matthew 6:11, Matthew 6:25-34, Luke 9:1-4, Acts 2:44-46, Acts 3:2-6, Acts 4:32-37, Acts 5:1-11). However, Paul told us to work on our own and not eat other peoples bread and to mind our own business (2 Thes. 3:7-12).
Thanks, --bro. Eli "Hoss" Caldwell
Sunday, December 14, 2014
Refutation of TULIP: second reply to comment on calvinist topics
A friend left a comment on my "Reply to comment on Calvinist topics " and I wanted to answer his comment with another blog post. See his comment in red font.
"Thanks Hoss, Jacob Arminius and John Calvin were outstanding theologians in their time (1500 to 1600 AD) with opposing belief systems, ideas and explanations concerning salvation.
I'm no expert on either, but I do understand their points and differences.
All brothers in Christ generally fit into one or the other belief system of thinking. Modern theologians say that there is no other views of interpretation concerning salvation, either GRACE or WORKS, (Calvinists or Aminians).
However, I would debate that.
What I have read on your posts and in your comments, I think that you would be in line with Arminian theology, but with all the favourite Calvinistic Bible quotations :-)
Concerning salvation, one group majors on GRACE (Calvinists), the other on WORKS (Arminians), they claim that you can't amalgamate the two, it's either grace or works and nothing in between.
My theology is different to theirs and it is updated and taught by the Spirit of Lord Jesus, so I claim :-)
You said, "I believe that a person is "in Christ" and becomes a son of God after he puts his/her faith in the gospel of the grace of God (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Acts 20:24). We are then "chosen" because we are "in him" according to Eph. 1:4. We got out of Adam and into Christ (1 Cor. 15:22)."
I think that a son was always a son and will always be a son. A man can never become a son to someone by his will, choice or faith or whatever, just the same as he never can become a son to the Queen of England, no matter what he does or believes.
If we ignore and transgress that sound principle, we will end up in confusion and error.
You said, "We are then "chosen" because we are "in him". No my brother, we were chosen before we have done anything, just as it says in (Eph.1:4), BEFORE the foundation of the world.
You said,"after a sinner does that we are passed from death unto life and shall never perish (John 10:28)."
A sinner who is dead can not function in the area in which he is dead. He can not 'will' or do something to have life, that is because he is dead. (John 10:28) are the Lords children and they are not the sinners, but the saints.
You said, "I believe that Christ provided the atonement and sacrifice for the sins of the world/everyman. Christ provided that salvation and grace....but we must RECEIVE Him it will not affect us."
So then, you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ actually died and made atonement for the sins of 'X' ?
You think that Jesus made a deal with X. If X will do his part for salvation, then Jesus will do His part for X and save him, providing X has done it properly.
It is reasonable to say that if X believes, only then he is saved and the moment he changes his mind, he is lost.
If that salvation depends on faith or believe, then the absence of that faith or belief demands the loss of that salvation.
That sounds like a pathetic untrustworthy impotent saviour, who wants to save X but can't actually do it without the permission of X.
However we look at; X's free will, it is superior to the Lords will. It looks more like the Lords will is not free, but in subjection to X's free will.
But my saviour Jesus is a lot better than that.
The Lord Jesus has chosen me before the foundation of the world to be saved, and at the appropriate time He laid down His life for me ('it is finished'), atoned and cancelled all of my sins against me and caused me to be born again, apart from me doing anything.
I now have been given the free gift of God a new life of the Spirit apart from works and I can never die again. And because I am a new creation, a new man in Christ, old things have passed away and everything is new, I now want to please my Lord and my God Jesus Christ in everything I do and live with Him for ever and ever.
Sounds to good doesn't it :-) ;-)
Eternal life as a free gift; all I can say, hallelujah! thank you thank you Jesus!"
I'll answer it section at a time so that I don't miss anything.
I don't agree with this statement....."All brothers in Christ generally fit into one or the other belief system of thinking. Modern theologians say that there is no other views of interpretation concerning salvation, either GRACE or WORKS " Arminias and Calvin may have became famous for their views on salvation, but there were people perverting the gospel by adding works MUCH before Arminias (see Galatians). Also, ever since our gospel was first revealed people have believed in salvation by grace without works. Even though I believe in salvation by grace I do not want to be associated with Calvin because he taught so much wrong stuff. I know many others that feel the same way--though I realize that a lot of people like to make you one of the other. I had rather be called a ''Ruckmanite" because that associates me with dispensationalism and believing the King James Bible--though I disagree with a number of his teachings as well.
"What I have read on your posts and in your comments, I think that you would be in line with Arminian theology, but with all the favourite Calvinistic Bible quotations " I do not know what an arminian is, but I believe in salvation without works, the freewill of man, and eternal security. What are "Calvinist Bible quotations"??? Most calvinist that I know of quote Romans chapters 8 and 9 with Ephesians 1...I don't really use those often.
"I think that a son was always a son and will always be a son. A man can never become a son to someone by his will, choice or faith or whatever, just the same as he never can become a son to the Queen of England, no matter what he does or believes. If we ignore and transgress that sound principle, we will end up in confusion and error. " I disagree, so does the Bible :) Before we get saved we are the "children of disobedience", the "children of wrath", and are of our "father the devil" (Eph. 2:1-3 John 8:44). We were NOT sins of God. Thankfully we were "ADOPTED" by God the Father thanks to His Son, Jesus Christ.
John 1:
[11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
[12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Romans 8:
[14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Galatians 4:
[3] Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
[4] But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[5] To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
[6] And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
[7] Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Notice that getting the power to become the sons of God in John 1:11-13 is dependent on receiving Christ by believing on Him. If you 'receive him not' then you do not become a son of God.
Notice in Romans 8:14-16 that being a son of God is conditioned on having the Holy Spirit: and getting the Holy Spirit is condition on if we trust Christ and believe the gospel according to Ephesians 1:13...."In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, " Also see Galatians 3:1-3. Also notice the word "ADOPTION".
Notice in Galatians 4:3-9 that it is about "ADOPTION". The whole point of the passage is that we have not always been the son of God and that we were not even known of God until we got saved. "after that ye have known God, OR RATHER ARE KNOWN OF GOD ".
Until we trust Christ and believe the gospel we are NOT sons of God, we do NOT have the Holy Spirit, and God does NOT know us. We must be adopted, we have not always been sons. That is not "confusion and error", that is plain scripture.
"You said, "We are then "chosen" because we are "in him". No my brother, we were chosen before we have done anything, just as it says in (Eph.1:4), BEFORE the foundation of the world. " No we were not chosen before the foundation of the world....you left out "IN HIM".
Ephesians 4:1 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
It did NOT say "he hath chosen us before the foundation of the world"--you left out the "in him". Being in Christ is the condition on being chosen before the foundation of the world. Christ is eternal and we are not--the only way to be chosen in eternity past is to get into Christ.
Ephesians 1:4 does not say that we were in Christ before the foundation of the world--before we got saved we were "IN ADAM" not Christ.
THE CONDITION OF MAN BEFORE PUTTING FAITH IN CHRIST:
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Ephesians 2:
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
[3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Ephesians 2:
[11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
WE ARE THEN "CHOSEN" AND "CALLED" BY HEARING THE GOSPEL AND BELIEVING IT:
2 Thessalonians 2:
[13] But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
[14] Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Galatians 3:
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
"A sinner who is dead can not function in the area in which he is dead. He can not 'will' or do something to have life, that is because he is dead. (John 10:28) are the Lords children and they are not the sinners, but the saints. " What? Are you saying that because man is dead in sins that some how that means he cannot believe the gospel? If that is the case then that means that nobody has ever been saved because we are all "dead in sins" for "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" according to Romans 3 and Ephesians 2. The problem is that what you are saying is nowhere in the Bible. Being dead in sins does not effect our mental abilities to believe facts. Common sense that God created man with would allow him to accept a free ticket out of hell. God did not create man to be so stupid that he can't believe the truth. Truth can either be accpted or rejected.
2 Thessalonians 2:
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
These people COULD HAVE believed the truth, but they didn't and so God will judge them for it.
Anyone who hears the word of God can have faith and believe!!!!
John 4:41 And many more believed because of his own word;
John 5:
[46] For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[47] But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Galatians 3:
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
"So then, you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ actually died and made atonement for the sins of 'X' ?
You think that Jesus made a deal with X. If X will do his part for salvation, then Jesus will do His part for X and save him, providing X has done it properly. " Not at all. Christ's death, burial, and resurrection is the gospel that saves and all who believe on that and trust Him are saved (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 1:13). Christ tasted death for everyman, died for the sins for both lost/saved people, and anyone that hears the word of God and believes on Him will be saved. The atonement is for ALL (2 Cor. 5:14-19, Heb. 2:9, 1 John 2:2, 2 Peter 2:1, 1 Tim. 2:4-6, 1 Tim. 4:10) and ALL who receive the gift will be saved (John 1:11-13).
Believing is NOT a work so there is no "deal" involved: Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Therefore we do not have to "do" anything to be saved as far as works are concerned.
Salvation is a "free gift" (Rom. 3:24, 5:15, 5:16, 5:18, 6:23, Eph. 2:8) and what can you do when someone offers you a "free gift"??? You can either REJECT IT (2 Thes. 2:10-12) or you can RECEIVE IT (Rom. 10:17, John 1:11-13).
"It is reasonable to say that if X believes, only then he is saved and the moment he changes his mind, he is lost. If that salvation depends on faith or believe, then the absence of that faith or belief demands the loss of that salvation." NO! That is contrary to what the Bible teaches about eternal security. Once we believe the gospel (freewill) we are then SEALED WITH THE SPIRIT until the rapture of the Body of Christ, the day of redemption.
2 Thessalonians 2:
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Psalms 2:
[1] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
[3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
[4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalms 37:
[9] For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
[10] For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
[11] But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
[12] The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
[13] The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
Psalms 59:
[5] Thou therefore, O LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel, awake to visit all the heathen: be not merciful to any wicked transgressors. Selah.
[6] They return at evening: they make a noise like a dog, and go round about the city.
[7] Behold, they belch out with their mouth: swords are in their lips: for who, say they, doth hear?
[8] But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.
"However we look at; X's free will, it is superior to the Lords will. It looks more like the Lords will is not free, but in subjection to X's free will. But my saviour Jesus is a lot better than that. " The Lord is not in subjection to man. The Lord set up a plan of salvation and man rejects it and so the Lord throws him into hell--how does that make the Lord in subjection to anybody?
"The Lord Jesus has chosen me before the foundation of the world to be saved, and at the appropriate time He laid down His life for me ('it is finished'), atoned and cancelled all of my sins against me and caused me to be born again, apart from me doing anything.
I now have been given the free gift of God a new life of the Spirit apart from works and I can never die again. And because I am a new creation, a new man in Christ, old things have passed away and everything is new, I now want to please my Lord and my God Jesus Christ in everything I do and live with Him for ever and ever." No comment, you can see why I disagree with you on that...I gave the scriptures why.
Salvation is a free gift without works and once we believe the gospel we are saved forever, but God did not make anybody get saved.
Thank you for the comment and I hope that helps! --bro. Eli "Hoss" Caldwell
"Thanks Hoss, Jacob Arminius and John Calvin were outstanding theologians in their time (1500 to 1600 AD) with opposing belief systems, ideas and explanations concerning salvation.
I'm no expert on either, but I do understand their points and differences.
All brothers in Christ generally fit into one or the other belief system of thinking. Modern theologians say that there is no other views of interpretation concerning salvation, either GRACE or WORKS, (Calvinists or Aminians).
However, I would debate that.
What I have read on your posts and in your comments, I think that you would be in line with Arminian theology, but with all the favourite Calvinistic Bible quotations :-)
Concerning salvation, one group majors on GRACE (Calvinists), the other on WORKS (Arminians), they claim that you can't amalgamate the two, it's either grace or works and nothing in between.
My theology is different to theirs and it is updated and taught by the Spirit of Lord Jesus, so I claim :-)
You said, "I believe that a person is "in Christ" and becomes a son of God after he puts his/her faith in the gospel of the grace of God (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Acts 20:24). We are then "chosen" because we are "in him" according to Eph. 1:4. We got out of Adam and into Christ (1 Cor. 15:22)."
I think that a son was always a son and will always be a son. A man can never become a son to someone by his will, choice or faith or whatever, just the same as he never can become a son to the Queen of England, no matter what he does or believes.
If we ignore and transgress that sound principle, we will end up in confusion and error.
You said, "We are then "chosen" because we are "in him". No my brother, we were chosen before we have done anything, just as it says in (Eph.1:4), BEFORE the foundation of the world.
You said,"after a sinner does that we are passed from death unto life and shall never perish (John 10:28)."
A sinner who is dead can not function in the area in which he is dead. He can not 'will' or do something to have life, that is because he is dead. (John 10:28) are the Lords children and they are not the sinners, but the saints.
You said, "I believe that Christ provided the atonement and sacrifice for the sins of the world/everyman. Christ provided that salvation and grace....but we must RECEIVE Him it will not affect us."
So then, you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ actually died and made atonement for the sins of 'X' ?
You think that Jesus made a deal with X. If X will do his part for salvation, then Jesus will do His part for X and save him, providing X has done it properly.
It is reasonable to say that if X believes, only then he is saved and the moment he changes his mind, he is lost.
If that salvation depends on faith or believe, then the absence of that faith or belief demands the loss of that salvation.
That sounds like a pathetic untrustworthy impotent saviour, who wants to save X but can't actually do it without the permission of X.
However we look at; X's free will, it is superior to the Lords will. It looks more like the Lords will is not free, but in subjection to X's free will.
But my saviour Jesus is a lot better than that.
The Lord Jesus has chosen me before the foundation of the world to be saved, and at the appropriate time He laid down His life for me ('it is finished'), atoned and cancelled all of my sins against me and caused me to be born again, apart from me doing anything.
I now have been given the free gift of God a new life of the Spirit apart from works and I can never die again. And because I am a new creation, a new man in Christ, old things have passed away and everything is new, I now want to please my Lord and my God Jesus Christ in everything I do and live with Him for ever and ever.
Sounds to good doesn't it :-) ;-)
Eternal life as a free gift; all I can say, hallelujah! thank you thank you Jesus!"
I'll answer it section at a time so that I don't miss anything.
I don't agree with this statement....."All brothers in Christ generally fit into one or the other belief system of thinking. Modern theologians say that there is no other views of interpretation concerning salvation, either GRACE or WORKS " Arminias and Calvin may have became famous for their views on salvation, but there were people perverting the gospel by adding works MUCH before Arminias (see Galatians). Also, ever since our gospel was first revealed people have believed in salvation by grace without works. Even though I believe in salvation by grace I do not want to be associated with Calvin because he taught so much wrong stuff. I know many others that feel the same way--though I realize that a lot of people like to make you one of the other. I had rather be called a ''Ruckmanite" because that associates me with dispensationalism and believing the King James Bible--though I disagree with a number of his teachings as well.
"What I have read on your posts and in your comments, I think that you would be in line with Arminian theology, but with all the favourite Calvinistic Bible quotations " I do not know what an arminian is, but I believe in salvation without works, the freewill of man, and eternal security. What are "Calvinist Bible quotations"??? Most calvinist that I know of quote Romans chapters 8 and 9 with Ephesians 1...I don't really use those often.
"I think that a son was always a son and will always be a son. A man can never become a son to someone by his will, choice or faith or whatever, just the same as he never can become a son to the Queen of England, no matter what he does or believes. If we ignore and transgress that sound principle, we will end up in confusion and error. " I disagree, so does the Bible :) Before we get saved we are the "children of disobedience", the "children of wrath", and are of our "father the devil" (Eph. 2:1-3 John 8:44). We were NOT sins of God. Thankfully we were "ADOPTED" by God the Father thanks to His Son, Jesus Christ.
John 1:
[11] He came unto his own, and his own received him not.
[12] But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:
[13] Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
Romans 8:
[14] For as many as are led by the Spirit of God, they are the sons of God.
[15] For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
[16] The Spirit itself beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God:
Galatians 4:
[3] Even so we, when we were children, were in bondage under the elements of the world:
[4] But when the fulness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,
[5] To redeem them that were under the law, that we might receive the adoption of sons.
[6] And because ye are sons, God hath sent forth the Spirit of his Son into your hearts, crying, Abba, Father.
[7] Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son; and if a son, then an heir of God through Christ.
[8] Howbeit then, when ye knew not God, ye did service unto them which by nature are no gods.
[9] But now, after that ye have known God, or rather are known of God, how turn ye again to the weak and beggarly elements, whereunto ye desire again to be in bondage?
Notice that getting the power to become the sons of God in John 1:11-13 is dependent on receiving Christ by believing on Him. If you 'receive him not' then you do not become a son of God.
Notice in Romans 8:14-16 that being a son of God is conditioned on having the Holy Spirit: and getting the Holy Spirit is condition on if we trust Christ and believe the gospel according to Ephesians 1:13...."In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, " Also see Galatians 3:1-3. Also notice the word "ADOPTION".
Notice in Galatians 4:3-9 that it is about "ADOPTION". The whole point of the passage is that we have not always been the son of God and that we were not even known of God until we got saved. "after that ye have known God, OR RATHER ARE KNOWN OF GOD ".
Until we trust Christ and believe the gospel we are NOT sons of God, we do NOT have the Holy Spirit, and God does NOT know us. We must be adopted, we have not always been sons. That is not "confusion and error", that is plain scripture.
"You said, "We are then "chosen" because we are "in him". No my brother, we were chosen before we have done anything, just as it says in (Eph.1:4), BEFORE the foundation of the world. " No we were not chosen before the foundation of the world....you left out "IN HIM".
Ephesians 4:1 According as he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:
It did NOT say "he hath chosen us before the foundation of the world"--you left out the "in him". Being in Christ is the condition on being chosen before the foundation of the world. Christ is eternal and we are not--the only way to be chosen in eternity past is to get into Christ.
Ephesians 1:4 does not say that we were in Christ before the foundation of the world--before we got saved we were "IN ADAM" not Christ.
THE CONDITION OF MAN BEFORE PUTTING FAITH IN CHRIST:
1 Corinthians 15:22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ shall all be made alive.
Ephesians 2:
[1] And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;
[2] Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:
[3] Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.
Ephesians 2:
[11] Wherefore remember, that ye being in time past Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
[12] That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the commonwealth of Israel, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
WE ARE THEN "CHOSEN" AND "CALLED" BY HEARING THE GOSPEL AND BELIEVING IT:
2 Thessalonians 2:
[13] But we are bound to give thanks alway to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth:
[14] Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Galatians 3:
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
"A sinner who is dead can not function in the area in which he is dead. He can not 'will' or do something to have life, that is because he is dead. (John 10:28) are the Lords children and they are not the sinners, but the saints. " What? Are you saying that because man is dead in sins that some how that means he cannot believe the gospel? If that is the case then that means that nobody has ever been saved because we are all "dead in sins" for "all have sinned and come short of the glory of God" according to Romans 3 and Ephesians 2. The problem is that what you are saying is nowhere in the Bible. Being dead in sins does not effect our mental abilities to believe facts. Common sense that God created man with would allow him to accept a free ticket out of hell. God did not create man to be so stupid that he can't believe the truth. Truth can either be accpted or rejected.
2 Thessalonians 2:
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
These people COULD HAVE believed the truth, but they didn't and so God will judge them for it.
Anyone who hears the word of God can have faith and believe!!!!
John 4:41 And many more believed because of his own word;
John 5:
[46] For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me: for he wrote of me.
[47] But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
Galatians 3:
[1] O foolish Galatians, who hath bewitched you, that ye should not obey the truth, before whose eyes Jesus Christ hath been evidently set forth, crucified among you?
[2] This only would I learn of you, Received ye the Spirit by the works of the law, or by the hearing of faith?
[3] Are ye so foolish? having begun in the Spirit, are ye now made perfect by the flesh?
"So then, you don't believe that the Lord Jesus Christ actually died and made atonement for the sins of 'X' ?
You think that Jesus made a deal with X. If X will do his part for salvation, then Jesus will do His part for X and save him, providing X has done it properly. " Not at all. Christ's death, burial, and resurrection is the gospel that saves and all who believe on that and trust Him are saved (1 Cor. 15:1-4, Eph. 1:13). Christ tasted death for everyman, died for the sins for both lost/saved people, and anyone that hears the word of God and believes on Him will be saved. The atonement is for ALL (2 Cor. 5:14-19, Heb. 2:9, 1 John 2:2, 2 Peter 2:1, 1 Tim. 2:4-6, 1 Tim. 4:10) and ALL who receive the gift will be saved (John 1:11-13).
Believing is NOT a work so there is no "deal" involved: Romans 4:5 But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. Therefore we do not have to "do" anything to be saved as far as works are concerned.
Salvation is a "free gift" (Rom. 3:24, 5:15, 5:16, 5:18, 6:23, Eph. 2:8) and what can you do when someone offers you a "free gift"??? You can either REJECT IT (2 Thes. 2:10-12) or you can RECEIVE IT (Rom. 10:17, John 1:11-13).
"It is reasonable to say that if X believes, only then he is saved and the moment he changes his mind, he is lost. If that salvation depends on faith or believe, then the absence of that faith or belief demands the loss of that salvation." NO! That is contrary to what the Bible teaches about eternal security. Once we believe the gospel (freewill) we are then SEALED WITH THE SPIRIT until the rapture of the Body of Christ, the day of redemption.
Ephesians 1:13-14, 4:30
In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise, Which is the earnest of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, unto the praise of his glory....And grieve not the holy Spirit of God, whereby ye are sealed unto the day of redemption.
Ephesians 5:30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.
2 Timothy 2:
[11] It is a faithful saying: For if we be dead with him, we shall also live with him:
[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
[12] If we suffer, we shall also reign with him: if we deny him, he also will deny us:
[13] If we believe not, yet he abideth faithful: he cannot deny himself.
If you believe the gospel then it does not matter what happens after that: you can lose your faith in Christ but He will not deny you because you are part of His body! We are "justified from all things" and "forgiven all trespasses"--including the sin of unbelief (Acts 13:38-39, Col. 2:13, Eph. 4:32). "IF WE BELIEVE NOT, YET HE ABIDETH FAITHFUL: HE CANNOT DENY HIMSELF" (2 Tim. 2:13).
"That
sounds like a pathetic untrustworthy impotent saviour, who wants to
save X but can't actually do it without the permission of X. " What Christ WANTS is for all to come to repentance--but all don't. That has nothing to do with the trustworthiness of Christ, that has to do with the sinfulness and arrogance of men that won't repent.
2 Peter 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
Just because Christ wants all men to be saved does not mean that He will save people for no reason. Christ set up a perfect plan of salvation and if they reject it He will throw them into hell and laugh at them.
2 Thessalonians 2:
[10] And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
[11] And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
[12] That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
Psalms 2:
[1] Why do the heathen rage, and the people imagine a vain thing?
[2] The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying,
[3] Let us break their bands asunder, and cast away their cords from us.
[4] He that sitteth in the heavens shall laugh: the Lord shall have them in derision.
Psalms 37:
[9] For evildoers shall be cut off: but those that wait upon the LORD, they shall inherit the earth.
[10] For yet a little while, and the wicked shall not be: yea, thou shalt diligently consider his place, and it shall not be.
[11] But the meek shall inherit the earth; and shall delight themselves in the abundance of peace.
[12] The wicked plotteth against the just, and gnasheth upon him with his teeth.
[13] The Lord shall laugh at him: for he seeth that his day is coming.
Psalms 59:
[5] Thou therefore, O LORD God of hosts, the God of Israel, awake to visit all the heathen: be not merciful to any wicked transgressors. Selah.
[6] They return at evening: they make a noise like a dog, and go round about the city.
[7] Behold, they belch out with their mouth: swords are in their lips: for who, say they, doth hear?
[8] But thou, O LORD, shalt laugh at them; thou shalt have all the heathen in derision.
"However we look at; X's free will, it is superior to the Lords will. It looks more like the Lords will is not free, but in subjection to X's free will. But my saviour Jesus is a lot better than that. " The Lord is not in subjection to man. The Lord set up a plan of salvation and man rejects it and so the Lord throws him into hell--how does that make the Lord in subjection to anybody?
"The Lord Jesus has chosen me before the foundation of the world to be saved, and at the appropriate time He laid down His life for me ('it is finished'), atoned and cancelled all of my sins against me and caused me to be born again, apart from me doing anything.
I now have been given the free gift of God a new life of the Spirit apart from works and I can never die again. And because I am a new creation, a new man in Christ, old things have passed away and everything is new, I now want to please my Lord and my God Jesus Christ in everything I do and live with Him for ever and ever." No comment, you can see why I disagree with you on that...I gave the scriptures why.
Salvation is a free gift without works and once we believe the gospel we are saved forever, but God did not make anybody get saved.
Thank you for the comment and I hope that helps! --bro. Eli "Hoss" Caldwell
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