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Monday, November 16, 2015

Reply to a Post Tribber: Mark 13:37 "I say unto ALL"?

My reply to a post-tribber who insisted that "all" in Mark 13:37 proves that the Church the Body of Christ is going to be in Daniel's 70th Week.

"The "crowd" that we have been talking about was Peter, James, John and Andrew.

Mark 13:3-4 And as he sat upon the mount of Olives over against the temple, Peter and James and John and Andrew asked him privately, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign when all these things shall be fulfilled?

Therefore when He says in Mark 13:37, "And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch." He means everybody in that generation and not just those 4 people.

Here is the deal: I take the "all" of verse 37 to be referring to the "generation" of verse 30 in contrast with the 4 man private meeting of verses 3-4. "This generation" is the CONTEXT of the "all". However, your private interpretation is that Jesus was not just speaking to the generation but that He was speaking to every single person that ever lived after He spoke those words. Well guess what? "every single person that ever lived after He spoke those words" IS NOT THE CONTEXT, the "generation" is!

Therefore I maintain the position that Christ said that those 4 men present would "see these things come to pass" and that He also said that that generation would not pass until all those things were fulfilled.

Mark 13:
[29] So ye in like manner, when ye shall see these things come to pass, know that it is nigh, even at the doors.
[30] Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done.

Therefore, my former statement is still valid...

What Christ said unto ALL was "the gospel of the kingdom" to "all nations" in Matt. 24:13-14 through the end of the chapter. I suppose you take "all" to mean everybody everywhere under any dispensation (revelation/rules) throughout all eternity? That is silly. The dispensational issue is that Christ spoke AGAIN after Matthew 24 and revealed the Dispensation of Grace as found in Ephesians 3:1-9 and the Gospel of the Grace of God (Acts 20:24, Gal. 1:11-12, 2:2, 2:7-8, Rom. 2:16, 16:25, 2 Tim. 2:8). Matthew 24 obviously got POSTPONED or else Jesus lied when He said... "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass, till all these things be fulfilled." (Matt. 24:34) "Verily I say unto you, that this generation shall not pass, till all these things be done." (Mark 13:30) "Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled." (Luke 21:32) Jesus said that all those things would be fulfilled before that generation passed. He said that the His disciples would see those things happen (Mark 13:3-4). He said that those who pierced Him would see Him coming (Matt. 26:64, Mark 14:62, Rev. 1:3, 1:7). With that being said, there are three options as to what this means...

A.) Christ lied

B.) The Son of Perdition did come and sit in the Holy Place, fulfilled the book of Daniel, and Christ did come and rapture the surviving believers, and He did judge the nations (Matt. chapters 24-25) and we are presently in His Kingdom.

C.) The events of Matthew 24 got POSTPONED by the Mystery Dispensation of Grace.

In light of the Scriptures, I believe option C.) is what the Bible teaches. See Romans 11....the blindness and fall of Israel was revealed to the apostle Paul and the coming of Christ to Israel has been postponed until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.

Romans 11:
[25] For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
[26] And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
[27] For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins."

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