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DAVID CLOUD's "A WARNING ABOUT PETER RUCKMAN"
Many people like to attack Dr. Ruckman, what you never see these people mention is how many thousands of people he gave the gospel to after being a pastor for decades! My comments on David Cloud's article in blue
DAVID
CLOUD: A WARNING ABOUT PETER RUCKMAN -
(Friday Church News Notes, April 28, 2017, www.wayoflife.org, fbns@wayoflife.org, 866-295-4143)
HOSS:
(Dr. Ruckman's death has been a year ago now,
I'm not sure what the purpose is in writing a "warning"
about a deceased person. That is, unless that person's teaching was
contrary to fundamental doctrines (salvation by faith, trinity,
eternal security, etc.) and was widely popular. Dr. Ruckman's
teaching was not
against fundamental doctrine nor is it widely popular. In fact, I
would say that his popularity was at its peak in the 90's. Dr.
Ruckman's personality and style of teaching is not something that
appeals to contemporary Christianity and I seriously doubt that his
popularity will grow any time soon. Especially since he has gone to
be with the Lord. The writing of such an article this long after his
death probably has more to do with a personal grudge against Dr.
Ruckman and not doctrinal controversy.)
DAVID
CLOUD: There are independent Baptist churches that are a great
blessing to this dark world (very few),
but some are cultic (most of them). And
one of those is Bible Baptist Church of Pensacola, Florida, founded
by the late Peter Ruckman.
HOSS:
(How is it "cultic"? People sling the word "cult"
around very loosely these days. The word "cult" itself
merely refers to "a group or sect bound together by veneration
of the same thing, person, ideal, etc." Any denomination or
group falls into that category. The word "cult" does not
even refer to a group that is in error, that is just the popular
usage. What most people mean by "cult" is a creepy group of
hermits that zealously follow a doctrine that they disagree with. For
example, to Trinitarians the Unitarians are a cult and vice versa.
The two groups disagree on a core doctrine, therefore they believe
the other group is a "cult". Bible Baptist Church does not
disagree with any fundamental doctrines so I do not consider them a
"cult" in the modern use of the word. It is true that I
have met some people that were really devoted to the Bible teaching
of Dr. Ruckman, of which some have carnally tried to adopt his
personality. But not because they thought he was a god or a prophet,
merely because they thought Dr. Ruckman was a cool guy and admired
his speaking style. That is not cultic, it is CARNAL. "For ye
are yet carnal: for whereas there is among you envying, and strife,
and divisions, are ye not carnal, and walk as men? For while one
saith, I am of Paul; and another, I am of Apollos; are ye not carnal?
Who then is Paul, and who is Apollos, but ministers by whom ye
believed, even as the Lord gave to every man?" 1 Cor.
3:3-5)
DAVID
CLOUD: This twice-divorced, thrice-married pastor exalted the King
James Bible as "advanced revelation" superior to the Greek
and Hebrew from which it was translated.
HOSS: You should always be suspicious when someone uses one sentence to hurl multiple attacks on someone and the attacks have nothing to do with each other. "twice divorced" is a personal/behavioral issue that has nothing whatsoever to do with a doctrinal issue such as the KJB inspiration/preservation.
HOSS: You should always be suspicious when someone uses one sentence to hurl multiple attacks on someone and the attacks have nothing to do with each other. "twice divorced" is a personal/behavioral issue that has nothing whatsoever to do with a doctrinal issue such as the KJB inspiration/preservation.
#1:
Divorce and remarriage: "Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to
be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife. But and if
thou marry, thou
hast not sinned"
(1 Cor. 7:27-28). It is not a sin to remarry after divorce. It is
true that Jesus said in Matthew 5:31-32 and 19:9 not to put away your
wife, but Dr. Ruckman did not "put away" his wife, the left
him
and divorced him.
I'm not sure why anyone cares about this issue anyway.
#2
KJB "superior to the Greek and Hebrew": People love to
isolate this statement made by Dr. Ruckman without ever giving the
reasons he gave for making the statement. Taking a statement out of
context to distort what someone believes is LYING. Dr. Ruckman made
the statement that the KJB was superior to the original autographs in
a video series on the KJB. In the video he outlined four reasons why it
was better. The outline shown in the tape is this
- Four reasons why the Authorized Holy Bible is superior to the unknown, non-existent "originals"
- You can read, teach, and memorize it
- It has separations between letters and words as well as sentences
- It has been responsible for more than ten times as many sinners getting saved as all the original autographs combined
- It is in the universal language of the end time, whereas Greek has been a dead language for more than 1,700 years.
You
can purchase the booklet of outlines used in the video here for $1 :
http://store.kjv1611.org/basic-false-premise/
DAVID CLOUD: He claimed that God shut the door of revelation in 1611 (The Monarch of Books, p. 9). In the books The Salient Verses and The Unknown Bible, Ruckman claimed to have discovered hundreds of advanced revelations in the Bible that no other man has found. He stated on page 347 of The Unknown Bible, "Do you realize that in these last two chapters, you have learned a dozen things that were unknown to the greatest Bible teachers in the world?" These new teachings include the idea that angels are 33-year-old males, that all believing women will receive 33-year-old male bodies at the Rapture, that when the believer is born again his soul is literally cut loose from the inside of his fleshly body, that demons are winged creatures ranging in size from that of flies to eagles, and that the soul is an invisible bodily shape.
HOSS: He was referring to the "greatest Bible teachers in the world" sarcasticly. The so called greatest Bible teachers don't even believe the Bible.
As for those particular teachings that Dr. Ruckman believed...
1.)
Angels are always mentioned as being males in the Bible. Though no
verse says that they are 33 year old males.
2.)
Cloud isolates "believing women" at the rapture to make it
sound strange. What Dr. Ruckman taught was that ALL believers would
receive a body like Christ's at the rapture. He based this off Phil.
3:20-21. I personally do not agree with that. But who cares? It isn't
a big deal.
3.)
The soul being cut loose from the body was based on Col. 2:11,
spiritual circumcision.
4.)
Demons are referred to as birds in the Bible, so they may be winged
(Rev. 18:2, etc). However, David Cloud gave no quote from Dr. Ruckman
on this (why?).
DAVID
CLOUD: In his tract Millions Disappear: Fact or Fiction?
Ruckman claimed that men are saved in different ways in different
ages, by faith plus works in the Old Testament and in the Tribulation
and by works alone in the Millennium.
HOSS: That is true, and that isn't a strange doctrine. Most dispensationalists believe that.
DAVID CLOUD: In his book Black Is Beautiful, Ruckman described his belief in space aliens. He suggested that some of the medieval plagues were caused by UFOs, that a B-52 bomber was downed by a UFO and that aliens disemboweled the crew members, that a crew member of a US Navy ship was transported into the future, that the CIA operates underground alien breeding facilities (p. 256), that there are web footed aliens, blue aliens with blue blood (pp. 85, 86), black aliens with green blood (p. 244), grey aliens with clear blood (pp. 310-11), and that Adam originally had water in his veins instead of blood (p. 185).
HOSS: That is true, and that isn't a strange doctrine. Most dispensationalists believe that.
DAVID CLOUD: In his book Black Is Beautiful, Ruckman described his belief in space aliens. He suggested that some of the medieval plagues were caused by UFOs, that a B-52 bomber was downed by a UFO and that aliens disemboweled the crew members, that a crew member of a US Navy ship was transported into the future, that the CIA operates underground alien breeding facilities (p. 256), that there are web footed aliens, blue aliens with blue blood (pp. 85, 86), black aliens with green blood (p. 244), grey aliens with clear blood (pp. 310-11), and that Adam originally had water in his veins instead of blood (p. 185).
HOSS:
Dr. Ruckman gave documentation for all of those alleged conspiracies
(which is what Black is Beautiful is, a book on the different
conspiracy theories). Those ideas were not things he made up. It is
clear that David Cloud isn't trying to discuss the documentation on
UFO sightings or the alleged conspiracy theories, he is just trying
to sling these statements out to make Dr. Ruckman look bad.