Kingdom of Heaven vs Kingdom of God
Behold the Man
Where do the dead go?
The worst thing that could happen
King James Bible believing (Ps. 12:6-7) Gospel of the Grace of God (Acts 20:24, 1 Cor. 15:1-4) Faith Alone (Eph. 1:7, 1:13, 2:8-9) Pre-Millennial (Rev. 19-20) Pre-Tribulation Rapture (1 Thes. 1:10) Mid-Acts Dispensational Right Division (2 Tim. 2:15, Eph. 3:1-9) anti-Darwinism (Exod 20:11, 31:17) one baptism (Eph. 4:5, 1 Cor. 1:17, 12:13) no signs for today anti-Charismatic (1 Cor. 13:8-13) against the sinner's prayer (John 9:31, Isa. 59:1-2) against the Flat Earth Hoax (Isa. 40:22, Job 26:7)
Pages
▼
Wednesday, April 29, 2015
New Dr. Ruckman preaching videos
See these recently made videos of Dr. Ruckman preaching (at 93 years old).
What are the baptisms of Hebrews 6:2?
Somebody asked me, what are the baptisms of Hebrews 6:2?
Here is my answer.
Here is my answer.
The context goes back into chapter 5:12,
[after talking about priesthood]
"For when for the time ye ought to be teachers, ye have need that one teach you again which be the first principles of the oracles of God; and are become such as have need of milk, and not of strong meat. For every one that useth milk is unskilful in the word of righteousness: for he is a babe. But strong meat belongeth to them that are of full age, even those who by reason of use have their senses exercised to discern both good and evil. Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection; not laying again the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, Of the doctrine of baptisms, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection of the dead, and of eternal judgment." (Heb. 5:12-6:2)
The context is the "first principles of the oracles of God" and "the word of righteousness", which are references to the Old Testament (Rom. 3:1-2, Acts 7:38).
This includes:
1.) the doctrine of Christ (Deut. 18:15-19, Num. 24:17, Micah 5:2, Isa. 7:14, 9:6-7, 52:14-15, 53, etc.)
2.) repentance from dead works (Heb. 7:12, 8:8-13, 9:14, with Jeremiah 31-32, Ezek. 14:6, 18:30, etc.)
3.) faith toward God (Deut. 30:10, Hab. 2:4, Mat. 23:23)
4.) doctrine of baptisms ( water: Num. 8:7, Exod. 29:4, 30:20, 40:12, Lev. 8:6, Numb. 19, Ezek. 36:25; Spirit: Joel 2:28-29, Ezek. 36:26-27, Jer. 31:33, 32:39-40; fire: Joel 1:19-2:5 with Luke 17:29-30, Isa. 66:24; unto Moses: Exod. 14:29 )
5.) laying on of hands (Numb. 8:10, 27:18-23, etc.)
6.) resurrection (Isa. 26:19, Job 19:25-27, Ezek. 37:1-14, Ps. 17:15)
7.) eternal judgment (Isa. 60:15, 66:24, Ps. 9:17, etc.)
Everything listed is Old Testament according to the context ("first principles of the oracles of God", "the word of righteousness"). I believe that water baptism is clearly an OT practice of the Jews, one that they were familiar with (John 1:25). John wrote his gospel and called baptism "purifying" (John 3:25-26). By comparing scripture with scripture, we can know that baptism was a variant of the already established practice (Num. 8:7).
Some folks have said that cross referencing John 3:25 with Numbers 8:7 is a stretch, but I don't believe it is. Look at how John used the term "purifying" in his gospel.
"And thus shalt thou do unto them, to cleanse them: Sprinkle water of purifying upon them, and let them shave all their flesh, and let them wash their clothes, and so make themselves clean." (Num. 8:7)
"And there were set there six waterpots of stone, after the manner of the purifying of the Jews, containing two or three firkins apiece." (John 2:6)
"Then there arose a question between some of John's disciples and the Jews about purifying. And they came unto John, and said unto him, Rabbi, he that was with thee beyond Jordan, to whom thou barest witness, behold, the same baptizeth, and all men come to him." (John 3:25-26)
--Eli Caldwell
Sunday, April 26, 2015
Hoss vs DiVietro: reply to the KJV Only Debate Blog (italic words in the KJV)
Below is a blog post made by Eric DiVietro (the apostate son of Kirk DiVietro) on his "KJV Only Debate Blog". The purpose of the blog post is to attack a man named Dr. Sam Gipp, a King James Bible believing evangelist. Why DiVietro would care to attack an evangelist that does not even know him I do not know. We can only assume that DiVietro just has a problem with FINAL AUTHORITY and will attack anyone that proclaims to have in their hands the word of God that liveth and abideth forever. (1 Pet. 1:23-25)
Here is the article which I will critique. I have inserted my comments in brackets.
http://kjvonlydebate.com/2015/03/19/dr-gipp-is-at-it-again/
"Dr." Gipp is at it again. by Eric DiVietro
Sam Gipp’s most recent “What’s the Big Deal about the KJV?” video tackles two questions:
[1:26] Gipp’s first slight-of-hand is to state that no Bible believer would say that the English “corrects” the original Hebrew and Greek, but then says that no one has the original Greek and Hebrew. What he says without saying it is that the KJV is intact but the original languages are not. It is a distinction without a difference. He still believes the original languages have been superseded by the English.
[Well, DO YOU have the "original Greek and Hebrew" manuscripts? NO you do not. Gipp told the plain truth and Eric didn't like it, that ain't his style. Of course the King James Bible is "intact", where could it go? The KJB has billions of copies all over the world, has been downloaded onto millions of computers and is on countless websites. How could it not be "intact"? Now the question is, how could the "original" Hebrew and Greek be intact? God quit using the Hebrew and promised to send His word to the Gentiles. The Hebrews had the benefit and spiritual blessing of God's word (Ps. 147:19-20, Rom. 3:1-2) BUT NOW the Gentiles get it (Rom. 11:13-25, 15:27, 16:25-26). What has little Eric been studying? Surely not the word of God! A Greek lexicon perhaps, scouring for "nuggets in the original Greek", but God forbid he get his nose in the BOOK.
Why would the "original Hebrew" be "intact"? The "original Hebrew" is a LANGUAGE not a specific text or Bible. What does that even mean? A language being "intact"?
God's promise of preservation is on "words", not languages. God works with translations all through the Bible
Here is a whole list of inspired translations found within the Bible:
A.) Ge 42:18-20; cf Ge 42:23: Joseph spoke in Egyptian; his words were recorded in Scripture in Hebrew
B.) Ezra 4: A Syrian letter. The “copy” follows Ezra 4:11 in Hebrew.
C.) Ps 110:1; cf Lu 20:42-43: A Greek translation of a Hebrew Psalm.
D.) Mark 5:41: Aramaic translated into Greek.
E.) Acts 22: Paul spoke to them in Hebrew (Ac 22:2); Luke recorded it in Greek.
F.) Acts 26:14: Paul recites to Agrippa what Jesus said to him in Hebrew, and it is recorded in Greek.
G.) Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34 : From Hebrew OT text (Ps 22:1) To Aramaic (in two spellings of the same word; Eli = Eloi) Transliterated from Aramaic into Greek. Translated right inside the verses from Aramaic into Greek.
(list given by Mr. Brandon Staggs of AV1611.com)
By the way, all this flim-flam about "the original Greek" is a first class hoax! At the same time God was inspiring "original Greek manuscripts" to be written by the apostles, He was also inspiring words spoken in OTHER languages (see Acts 2, 1 Cor. 14, and Eph. 4). The word of God was being spoken and copied in other languages at the same time as the "originals" were being written.
But little Eric missed all of those things because he can't study the Bible. Eric is simply trying to earn recognition among the Scholarship Only Cult.]
[1:51] Gipp’s assertion that the italicized words of the KJV represent only words added to smooth out the translation is patently false. While this was certainly the most common reason, they also used italics for phrases they added which did not appear in the text, such as the brother of in 2 Samuel 21:19. This addition was made solely to synchronize this passage with 1 Chronicles 20:5. There is absolutely no textual evidence for changing the reading.
[Really? That is what they said about 1 John 2:23 back in 1611, that there was no Greek manuscript that supported the last 10 words of the verse. However, the AV translators knew about the reading from the VULGATE (Latin) and supplied the words from that, but put them in italics. Then lo and behold those 10 words showed up in the Alexandrian manuscripts when "discovered". So let that be a lesson to Eric: you don't know what has textual evidence and what doesn't. All you know is AVAILABLE textual evidence. But Eric can't talk about that, if he did, people would quit listening to him and the Alexandrian Cult would stop patting him on the head. Gipp knows and teaches that the italic words are sometimes supplied to "smooth out" the translation and make it more readable going from Greek to English, but other times the words are implied but not contained in the Greek language. Eric is simply misrepresenting Gipp to make himself look smart.]
[2:09] When he recasts honest questions as “this friend of yours would be upset” about using the KJV, he is pulling another fast one. I do not know of any honest, English-speaking believer who would be upset about the italicized phrases in the KJV. What upsets people is the assertion that KJVO people make concerning the inspiration of those italicized words as being on par with the underlying text.
[Eric just openly stated that he has a problem with someone believing and living by EVERY word in the Bible. Eric does not follow Matthew 4:4 or Luke 4:4. His position is that you cannot have a final authority ("all authority' Titus 2:15) and that you must have knowledge of Greek lexicons and critical apparatuses in order to understand the Bible. You cannot be "unlearned and ignorant" (Acts 4:13) and learn the scriptures. That is the Scholarship Only position. They abhor any concept of 'all authority" (Titus 2:15) and cannot stand to be judged by the BOOK (Heb. 4:12, Rev. 20:12, John 12:48). Eric is his own god--which makes for one fool of a god!
Now about the "inspiration" of the italicized words in the KJB. Do the italic words in the KJB belong? Let's consult the LORD and the apostles about this issue. (I consult the Lord for a very specific reason--Rom 3:4)
Both the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul QUOTE the italic words as scripture! And we were told to follow them (Matt. 4:19, 1 Cor. 11:1). So I will believe and live by "EVERY WORD" in my Bible. Ain't it a beautiful 'coincendence' that Deuteronomy 8:3 was one of the instances where God chose to prove the inspiration of the italic words? But Eric can't see it. He is blinder than a one eyed bat backing in backwards.]
[2:50] Dr. Gipp shows his young friend the italicized phrase who had been the wife of in Matthew 1:6 as evidence of the necessity of KJV translators adding phrases for ease of reading, and then says, “Surprise! This is not a King James Bible! It is New King James.” He claims this proves that the guy’s friend is ignorant because if they have a problem with additions to the text, they would have a problem with every translation. He creates a straw man – plain and simple.
[How is that a straw man? Those who disapprove of the KJB italics must also disapprove of the NKJV and ESV italics as shown in Dr. Gipp's video.]
Dr. Gipp is also ignorant of the development of the English text here. The particular line he is citing is not from the KJV. It dates back to the Vulgate. Only the word wife was added (by Tyndale, not by the KJV translators). This is a case where the translation is implied by the original. He ignores passages like Psalm 7:11 where the translators supplied the words the wicked to demonstrate a particular view of God. He also ignores passages where the Old Testament translation is adapted to the New Testament quotes or paraphrases, such as when Peter quotes Psalm 16:8 in Acts 2:25. While these additions do make the finished translation more cohesive, they give a false impression that the NT writers knew these passages verbatim, which they did not.
[What? The NT writers under inspiration of God did not know the Old Testament passages verbatim? If God INSPIRES you to quote something, you'll quote it right! Eric is an utter goof.]
[3:42] Another case of Dr. Gipp being either disingenuous or ignorant. He claims that the KJV supplies something lacking in the text by clarifying that “flies” in Exodus 8 is in italics. He completely misses that “swarms of flies” was idiomatic and a perfectly acceptable translation of the Hebrew עָרֹב, as evidenced by its use in Cranmer and Geneva. That the KJV translators put “flies” in italics is actually unfortunate. There was no reason to do that.
[KJB believers accept every word in the King James Bible, including the italics. So "flies" being in italics is not "unfortunate" in the slightest. Eric is just blowing smoke.]
[4:36] Gipp’s explanation of the addition of italics in 2 Samuel 21:19 is the same weak argument used by everyone who just has to have the KJV be perfect. He refers to modern translations as “pulling those italics out” when in fact, this is not what happens at all. Modern translations do not utilize the system of using italics because a translation is a translation. The italics should be removed in 2 Samuel 21:19. They do not belong to the text, and saying anything else is acknowledging exactly what Gipp says he does not believe – that the KJV corrects the shortcomings of the original languages.
[The question is WHO KILLED Goliath? Was it David? Was it Elhanan? How many Goliaths are there? Chapter and verse? The KJB has it right every time.
1 Samuel 17:51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled. [Goliath]
2 Samuel 21:19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. [Correct--cross reference 1 Chronicles 20:5]
1 Chronicles 20:5 And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam. ]
[5:51] Arguing that the KJV does not have contradictions in it and therefore prevents confusion is absurdity. There is no contradiction to say two people killed someone named Goliath. The Philistines often used the same title for multiple people who filled the same office. Two people killing someone named Goliath does not make a contradiction, anymore than saying I like Sam and I don’t like Sam is a contradiction if I am talking about two different people named Sam. Gipp’s argument boils down to “Choose the Bible that is easier” instead of “honor the text.” And then he throws a coloring book into the situation.
[Of course. But if the italics were removed, the Bible wouldn't say that Elhanan killed "someone named Goliath", it would say "Goliath the Gittite". Erid can't read English.]
Once again, Gipp would rather be confident in the KJV than rely upon the text or do any kind of hard work. The KJV is just easier for him – there’s no way around it. He is dismissive of any kind of historical or textual work that might be needed to deal with the realities of the manuscript evidence and the process of translation. He asserts that if it is in the KJV, it is absolutely true; and then solves all his problems by putting that presupposition ahead of any other evidence.
[What is "THE text"? Go ahead Eric, tell us what "THE text" is. You say we can be "confident" in "THE text"? I would like one of those since you don't believe we can be confident in the KJB. So what is it? Can you send me a copy of "THE text"? Which text? There are dozens of texts. Eric, are you all there?
Of course the KJB is easy for us. That is what the Bible says isn't it?
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psalms 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
By the way Eric, Dr. Gipp is by no means lazy. He has written quite a few books and does not own a home--he travels the country as an evangelist in a motor home. He is CONSTANTLY on the move. He does all of that with bad neck problems that he got many years ago from breaking his neck. And what are you Eric? Are you smarter than Gipp? What do you do?]
It would be nice if the situation were that simple; but it is not. To be honest, if I were that guy sitting across from Gipp, I would not just smile at his simple hand-waving dismissals and ignore my friend who is asking good questions. I would want to research this further. Fortunately (for him), Gipp is surrounded by people who just accept his explanations as absolute.
[Dr. Gipp knows a lot about MSS evidence and history, in fact he has been writing a book on it for over a decade. Eric just pretends like HE is the master mind and the final authority while everyone else is just a high school dropout.]
Here is the article which I will critique. I have inserted my comments in brackets.
http://kjvonlydebate.com/2015/03/19/dr-gipp-is-at-it-again/
"Dr." Gipp is at it again. by Eric DiVietro
Sam Gipp’s most recent “What’s the Big Deal about the KJV?” video tackles two questions:
- Did the King James translators add words to the Bible?
- Does the KJV correct the original Hebrew and Greek?
[1:26] Gipp’s first slight-of-hand is to state that no Bible believer would say that the English “corrects” the original Hebrew and Greek, but then says that no one has the original Greek and Hebrew. What he says without saying it is that the KJV is intact but the original languages are not. It is a distinction without a difference. He still believes the original languages have been superseded by the English.
[Well, DO YOU have the "original Greek and Hebrew" manuscripts? NO you do not. Gipp told the plain truth and Eric didn't like it, that ain't his style. Of course the King James Bible is "intact", where could it go? The KJB has billions of copies all over the world, has been downloaded onto millions of computers and is on countless websites. How could it not be "intact"? Now the question is, how could the "original" Hebrew and Greek be intact? God quit using the Hebrew and promised to send His word to the Gentiles. The Hebrews had the benefit and spiritual blessing of God's word (Ps. 147:19-20, Rom. 3:1-2) BUT NOW the Gentiles get it (Rom. 11:13-25, 15:27, 16:25-26). What has little Eric been studying? Surely not the word of God! A Greek lexicon perhaps, scouring for "nuggets in the original Greek", but God forbid he get his nose in the BOOK.
Why would the "original Hebrew" be "intact"? The "original Hebrew" is a LANGUAGE not a specific text or Bible. What does that even mean? A language being "intact"?
God's promise of preservation is on "words", not languages. God works with translations all through the Bible
Here is a whole list of inspired translations found within the Bible:
A.) Ge 42:18-20; cf Ge 42:23: Joseph spoke in Egyptian; his words were recorded in Scripture in Hebrew
B.) Ezra 4: A Syrian letter. The “copy” follows Ezra 4:11 in Hebrew.
C.) Ps 110:1; cf Lu 20:42-43: A Greek translation of a Hebrew Psalm.
D.) Mark 5:41: Aramaic translated into Greek.
E.) Acts 22: Paul spoke to them in Hebrew (Ac 22:2); Luke recorded it in Greek.
F.) Acts 26:14: Paul recites to Agrippa what Jesus said to him in Hebrew, and it is recorded in Greek.
G.) Matthew 27:46; Mark 15:34 : From Hebrew OT text (Ps 22:1) To Aramaic (in two spellings of the same word; Eli = Eloi) Transliterated from Aramaic into Greek. Translated right inside the verses from Aramaic into Greek.
(list given by Mr. Brandon Staggs of AV1611.com)
By the way, all this flim-flam about "the original Greek" is a first class hoax! At the same time God was inspiring "original Greek manuscripts" to be written by the apostles, He was also inspiring words spoken in OTHER languages (see Acts 2, 1 Cor. 14, and Eph. 4). The word of God was being spoken and copied in other languages at the same time as the "originals" were being written.
But little Eric missed all of those things because he can't study the Bible. Eric is simply trying to earn recognition among the Scholarship Only Cult.]
[1:51] Gipp’s assertion that the italicized words of the KJV represent only words added to smooth out the translation is patently false. While this was certainly the most common reason, they also used italics for phrases they added which did not appear in the text, such as the brother of in 2 Samuel 21:19. This addition was made solely to synchronize this passage with 1 Chronicles 20:5. There is absolutely no textual evidence for changing the reading.
[Really? That is what they said about 1 John 2:23 back in 1611, that there was no Greek manuscript that supported the last 10 words of the verse. However, the AV translators knew about the reading from the VULGATE (Latin) and supplied the words from that, but put them in italics. Then lo and behold those 10 words showed up in the Alexandrian manuscripts when "discovered". So let that be a lesson to Eric: you don't know what has textual evidence and what doesn't. All you know is AVAILABLE textual evidence. But Eric can't talk about that, if he did, people would quit listening to him and the Alexandrian Cult would stop patting him on the head. Gipp knows and teaches that the italic words are sometimes supplied to "smooth out" the translation and make it more readable going from Greek to English, but other times the words are implied but not contained in the Greek language. Eric is simply misrepresenting Gipp to make himself look smart.]
[2:09] When he recasts honest questions as “this friend of yours would be upset” about using the KJV, he is pulling another fast one. I do not know of any honest, English-speaking believer who would be upset about the italicized phrases in the KJV. What upsets people is the assertion that KJVO people make concerning the inspiration of those italicized words as being on par with the underlying text.
[Eric just openly stated that he has a problem with someone believing and living by EVERY word in the Bible. Eric does not follow Matthew 4:4 or Luke 4:4. His position is that you cannot have a final authority ("all authority' Titus 2:15) and that you must have knowledge of Greek lexicons and critical apparatuses in order to understand the Bible. You cannot be "unlearned and ignorant" (Acts 4:13) and learn the scriptures. That is the Scholarship Only position. They abhor any concept of 'all authority" (Titus 2:15) and cannot stand to be judged by the BOOK (Heb. 4:12, Rev. 20:12, John 12:48). Eric is his own god--which makes for one fool of a god!
Now about the "inspiration" of the italicized words in the KJB. Do the italic words in the KJB belong? Let's consult the LORD and the apostles about this issue. (I consult the Lord for a very specific reason--Rom 3:4)
| I have set the LORD always before me: because he is at my right hand, I shall not be moved. (Psa. 16:8) | For David speaketh concerning him, I foresaw the Lord always before my face, for he is on my right hand, that I should not be moved: (Acts 2:25) |
| Thou shalt not muzzle the ox when he treadeth out the corn. (Deu. 25:4) | For it is written in the law of Moses, Thou shalt not muzzle the mouth of the ox that treadeth out the corn. Doth God take care for oxen? (I Cor. 9:9. Also see I Tim. 5:18) |
| And he humbled thee, and suffered thee to hunger, and fed thee with manna, which thou knewest not, neither did thy fathers know; that he might make thee know that man doth not live by bread only, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of the LORD doth man live. (Deu. 8:3) | But he answered and said, It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. (Mat. 4:4) |
| I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. (Psa. 82:6) | Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? (John 10:34) |
| Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD, Behold, I lay in Zion for a foundation a stone, a tried stone, a precious corner stone, a sure foundation: he that believeth shall not make haste. (Isa. 28:16) | Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded. (I Pet. 2:6) |
Both the Lord Jesus Christ and the apostle Paul QUOTE the italic words as scripture! And we were told to follow them (Matt. 4:19, 1 Cor. 11:1). So I will believe and live by "EVERY WORD" in my Bible. Ain't it a beautiful 'coincendence' that Deuteronomy 8:3 was one of the instances where God chose to prove the inspiration of the italic words? But Eric can't see it. He is blinder than a one eyed bat backing in backwards.]
[2:50] Dr. Gipp shows his young friend the italicized phrase who had been the wife of in Matthew 1:6 as evidence of the necessity of KJV translators adding phrases for ease of reading, and then says, “Surprise! This is not a King James Bible! It is New King James.” He claims this proves that the guy’s friend is ignorant because if they have a problem with additions to the text, they would have a problem with every translation. He creates a straw man – plain and simple.
[How is that a straw man? Those who disapprove of the KJB italics must also disapprove of the NKJV and ESV italics as shown in Dr. Gipp's video.]
Dr. Gipp is also ignorant of the development of the English text here. The particular line he is citing is not from the KJV. It dates back to the Vulgate. Only the word wife was added (by Tyndale, not by the KJV translators). This is a case where the translation is implied by the original. He ignores passages like Psalm 7:11 where the translators supplied the words the wicked to demonstrate a particular view of God. He also ignores passages where the Old Testament translation is adapted to the New Testament quotes or paraphrases, such as when Peter quotes Psalm 16:8 in Acts 2:25. While these additions do make the finished translation more cohesive, they give a false impression that the NT writers knew these passages verbatim, which they did not.
[What? The NT writers under inspiration of God did not know the Old Testament passages verbatim? If God INSPIRES you to quote something, you'll quote it right! Eric is an utter goof.]
[3:42] Another case of Dr. Gipp being either disingenuous or ignorant. He claims that the KJV supplies something lacking in the text by clarifying that “flies” in Exodus 8 is in italics. He completely misses that “swarms of flies” was idiomatic and a perfectly acceptable translation of the Hebrew עָרֹב, as evidenced by its use in Cranmer and Geneva. That the KJV translators put “flies” in italics is actually unfortunate. There was no reason to do that.
[KJB believers accept every word in the King James Bible, including the italics. So "flies" being in italics is not "unfortunate" in the slightest. Eric is just blowing smoke.]
[4:36] Gipp’s explanation of the addition of italics in 2 Samuel 21:19 is the same weak argument used by everyone who just has to have the KJV be perfect. He refers to modern translations as “pulling those italics out” when in fact, this is not what happens at all. Modern translations do not utilize the system of using italics because a translation is a translation. The italics should be removed in 2 Samuel 21:19. They do not belong to the text, and saying anything else is acknowledging exactly what Gipp says he does not believe – that the KJV corrects the shortcomings of the original languages.
[The question is WHO KILLED Goliath? Was it David? Was it Elhanan? How many Goliaths are there? Chapter and verse? The KJB has it right every time.
1 Samuel 17:51 Therefore David ran, and stood upon the Philistine, and took his sword, and drew it out of the sheath thereof, and slew him, and cut off his head therewith. And when the Philistines saw their champion was dead, they fled. [Goliath]
2 Samuel 21:19 And there was again a battle in Gob with the Philistines, where Elhanan the son of Jaare-oregim, a Bethlehemite, slew the brother of Goliath the Gittite, the staff of whose spear was like a weaver's beam. [Correct--cross reference 1 Chronicles 20:5]
1 Chronicles 20:5 And there was war again with the Philistines; and Elhanan the son of Jair slew Lahmi the brother of Goliath the Gittite, whose spear staff was like a weaver's beam. ]
[5:51] Arguing that the KJV does not have contradictions in it and therefore prevents confusion is absurdity. There is no contradiction to say two people killed someone named Goliath. The Philistines often used the same title for multiple people who filled the same office. Two people killing someone named Goliath does not make a contradiction, anymore than saying I like Sam and I don’t like Sam is a contradiction if I am talking about two different people named Sam. Gipp’s argument boils down to “Choose the Bible that is easier” instead of “honor the text.” And then he throws a coloring book into the situation.
[Of course. But if the italics were removed, the Bible wouldn't say that Elhanan killed "someone named Goliath", it would say "Goliath the Gittite". Erid can't read English.]
Once again, Gipp would rather be confident in the KJV than rely upon the text or do any kind of hard work. The KJV is just easier for him – there’s no way around it. He is dismissive of any kind of historical or textual work that might be needed to deal with the realities of the manuscript evidence and the process of translation. He asserts that if it is in the KJV, it is absolutely true; and then solves all his problems by putting that presupposition ahead of any other evidence.
[What is "THE text"? Go ahead Eric, tell us what "THE text" is. You say we can be "confident" in "THE text"? I would like one of those since you don't believe we can be confident in the KJB. So what is it? Can you send me a copy of "THE text"? Which text? There are dozens of texts. Eric, are you all there?
Of course the KJB is easy for us. That is what the Bible says isn't it?
Psalms 19:7 The law of the LORD is perfect, converting the soul: the testimony of the LORD is sure, making wise the simple.
Psalms 119:130 The entrance of thy words giveth light; it giveth understanding unto the simple.
By the way Eric, Dr. Gipp is by no means lazy. He has written quite a few books and does not own a home--he travels the country as an evangelist in a motor home. He is CONSTANTLY on the move. He does all of that with bad neck problems that he got many years ago from breaking his neck. And what are you Eric? Are you smarter than Gipp? What do you do?]
It would be nice if the situation were that simple; but it is not. To be honest, if I were that guy sitting across from Gipp, I would not just smile at his simple hand-waving dismissals and ignore my friend who is asking good questions. I would want to research this further. Fortunately (for him), Gipp is surrounded by people who just accept his explanations as absolute.
[Dr. Gipp knows a lot about MSS evidence and history, in fact he has been writing a book on it for over a decade. Eric just pretends like HE is the master mind and the final authority while everyone else is just a high school dropout.]
Saturday, April 25, 2015
Is Your Bible the Right One?
Is Your Bible the Right One?
“For we are not as many, which corrupt the word of God…” –II Cor. 2:17
BY RICHARD JORDAN
For over 350 year the Authorized Version, commonly known as the King James Bible, was used by the Body of Christ at large and confidently believed to be the Word of God. In the last 3 or 4 decades all this has changed.Now we are faced with a variable Babel of confusion over the various Bible translations continuously being introduced on to the market. There is a serious question which must be faced: Are these modern versions really reliable—are they really versions or, as many have come to claim, perversions of the Word of God?
Our examination of this important subject will by no means be exhaustive, given the space available to us here, but we hope to give the reader enough information that as an informed believer you can make a sound decision as to which Bible is reliable and which version is not.
A bit of background to begin with: In 1881 there was introduced into public circulation a new Bible text. It came through the work of the Revision Committee which produced the (English) Revised Version, 1881, and the American Standard Version, 1901.
This new Greek text developed by the Revision Committee, under the leadership and pressure of Westcott and Hort, is the basis of modern translations. It has been used to replace the Received Text of the KJV and its predecessors. There is, however, a growing awareness that this new Greek text is not reliable—and more and more are returning, as we have, to the KJV.
As we compare verses, we will see why this is true. We have objective evidence as the reliability of the KJV as opposed to the new bible version—overwhelming evidence that new versions are not simply better translations. Nor are they simply revisions of the KJV. Rather they are new and different Bible-texts which often question, discredit and water down important and vital truths basic to the Christian faith (cf. Gen. 3:1).
THERE IS A DIFFERENCE
Let’s start by understanding that there is a great deal of difference between the KJV and the modern versions. This difference is not simply a translation difference. It is in fact a basic textual difference: they are translations of two different lines of Greek texts. A few examples must suffice:
In Matt. 1:25 the words “her firstborn son” are consistently omitted by modern versions.
In Matt. 6:13 the ending of “For thine is the kingdom, and the power, and the glory, for ever. Amen” is omitted. This explains why the Protestant version of this prayer is lengthier than the Roman Catholic rendition. The KJV is the text of the Protestant Reformation while the new versions embrace the Roman reading.
Verses such as Matt. 17:21 and 23:14 are omitted entirely, while in Matt. 24:36 the “nor the Son” are added.
There are literally hundreds of these type textual alterations which have nothing to do with translation. They come because of the difference in what is being translated—the Greek texts being used are substantially different. And the difference is by no means insignificant.
In modern versions numerous verses have been changed in such a way as to affect truths basic to the Christian faith. While many are quite subtle, they nonetheless provide the type of objective evidence which convicts these new versions of perverting God’s Word. Again, space allows only a few examples:
In John 1:27 the words “is preferred before me” are omitted, so that John is made to say only that Christ came after him. In John 6:47 “he that believeth on me hath everlasting life” is changed to read: “he who believes has everlasting life” (NIV).1 The words “on me” are left out.
John 6:65, 14:12 and 16:10 have Christ calling to God “the Father” instead of “my father,” as in KJV. In Rev. 1:11 the phrase “I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last,” referring to Christ—and an obvious proof that Jesus Christ is the Jehovah of Isa. 44:6—is omitted. Other titles of Christ which indicate His deity are regularly omitted or altered in such a way as to not connote deity (e.g., Matt. 27:54, John 9:35, I Cor. 15:47; 16:22, Rom. 9:5; 14:10, Col. 1:2, II Tim. 4:22, etc.).
Other vital truths are also affected. For example, in I Cor. 5:7 the words “for us” are omitted, affecting the doctrine of the vicarious death of Christ by suggesting merely that He was sacrificed and did die, but not necessarily “for us” (see also I Pet. 4:1). It isn’t surprising that Heb. 1:3 omits the words “by Himself” from the phrase: “When He had by Himself purged our sins.” There is also Col. 1:14 where the clause “through His blood” is omitted, casting doubt on the necessity of the shedding of Christ’s blood for redemption.
Then there is Luke 2:33 where the words “Joseph and his mother” are changed to read: “The child’s father and mother” (NIV), implying that Christ was not virgin-born. Not even a note of explanation is given. Surely the evidence for such an important change should have been offered.
In Luke 24:51 the words “And carried up into heaven,” referring to our Lord’s ascension, are omitted. In John 16:16 the words “because I go to the Father” are omitted.
By now it should be obvious that the new versions are not simply “better translations” or a revision of KJV. Rather they are new and different Bible-texts. Nor is it true that they contain only minor changes which do not affect basic meanings.
The great number of passages (we have given only examples) altered or omitted so as to water down or attack the very truths the Bible teaches, especially where the person and work of Christ are concerned, is clear evidence that modern versions are dangerous to spiritual health.
SERIOUS QUESTIONS
Because of the subtle nature of the deception used to corrupt God’s Words, we want to offer three examples of the absolute devastation caused by these new versions. The complacent nature of the current thinking in regard to these issues has caused some to pass off as only a minor irritant the numerous passages which are altered so as to eliminate or dilute statements on the deity of Christ, the virgin birth, the vicarious atonement, etc. Because of this, and the emotional allegiance often attached to those recommending the modern versions, we ask our readers to consider the impact of these three passages on their faith. These three passages are irrefutable, objective evidence that modern versions are unsafe.
Matt: 5:22: Often it is difficult to grasp the impact of what seems to be an innocent omission. Here is a verse where this syndrome is demonstrated to be a subtle trap leading to spiritual destruction. In KJV the verse reads,
“But I say unto you, That whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment: and whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council: but whosoever shall say, Thou fool, shall be in danger of hell fire.”The NIV renders the verse thus:
“But I tell you that anyone who is angry with his brother will be subject to judgment. Again, anyone who says to his brother, ‘Raca,’ is answerable to the Sanhedrin. But anyone who says, ‘You fool!’ will be in danger of the fire of hell.”Did you catch the omission? The phrase “without a cause” is omitted from the statement “Whosoever is angry with his brother without a cause shall be in danger of the judgment.” This does not seem to be too very consequential at first glance. But for a Bible student who is serious about believing and honoring the Word of God, this verse is devastating.
If the reader is diligent it will not be long before he comes upon Mark 3:5, where we are told about our Lord,
“And when he had LOOKED ROUND ABOUT ON THEM WITH ANGER, BEING GRIEVED FOR THE HARDNESS OF THEIR HEARTS…”The problem is obvious: If the NIV reading is to stand, our Lord is condemned by His own words.
This is no small matter! By this seemingly unimportant omission in Matt. 5:22 the modern versions have destroyed the sinlessness of the Lord Jesus Christ and established Him as a sinner, condemned for failure to live by His own declaration.
Mark 1:2: This verse brings up the dementia associated with the use of modern versions. The following change is so amazing that we doubt anyone would believe it if the record was not clear. In KJV the verse reads,
“As IT IS WRITTEN IN THE PROPHETS, Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.”The NIV rendering is consistent with other modern versions:
“IT IS WRITTEN IN ISAIAH THE PROPHET: ‘I will send my messenger ahead of you, who will prepare your way.’”Any reference edition or center column reference will quickly establish the problem for the modern versions: The quotation in Mark 1:2 is not from Isaiah. It is from Mal. 3:1. Mark 1:3 is a quote from Isa. 40:3. Thus two prophets are being quoted, not one. The statement in NIV (and other new versions) is simply false.
This is simply a case of the Greek text and resultant English translation being wrong. It is a mistake, plain and simple. No amount of sophistry can argue around it. Notice the verse does not say, “It was spoken in Isaiah” (as in the case of Matt.27:9’s quote of Jeremiah). No. The quote is clearly said to have been “written in Isaiah.”
Two possibilities exist: Either Isaiah, as we have it, is incomplete, omitting the quote (thus the Bible itself is not complete), or Mark is mistaken having given the wrong reference (which would mean that the Holy Spirit made a mistake writing the Scripture).
These two choices leave us in the unenviable position of having to adjust our understanding of Biblical infallibility. The doctrine of infallibility will not stand the test if the reading of the new versions is accepted.
Heb. 3:16: We add this reference because it too seems to be too impossible to be real. Unfortunately it is all too real—and illustrative of the caliber of modern versions. KJV renders the verse this way:
“For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit NOT ALL THAT CAME OUT OF EGYPT BY MOSES.”The verse is changed in the NIV to read:
“Who were they who heard and rebelled? WERE THEY NOT ALL THOSE MOSES LED OUT OF EGYPT?”In other words, KJV says that “not all that came out of Egypt by Moses” rebelled while the NIV indicates that “all those Moses led out of Egypt” did rebel. Any junior in Sunday School knows which of the two is right!
After 40 years of wilderness wanderings, Moses addresses Israel as she prepares to enter the promised land. Deut. 29:2 tells us,
“And Moses called unto all Israel and said unto them, Ye have seen all that the Lord did BEFORE YOUR EYES IN THE LAND OF EGYPT UNTO PHAROAH…” (cf. Deut. 1:30).Obviously some of those who were in Egypt and saw with their own eyes what God had done there also entered into the promised land, having not rebelled in the wilderness. As we said, any junior aged boy or girl could name two of them: Joshua and Caleb! One wonders what the translators of the NIV and other versions have been reading.
Why should we accept a Bible version that is not true—especially when we have one that is? Why would we accept a Bible that openly denies the sinlessness of our Lord and that make the doctrine of Scriptural infallibility a falsehood?
THE BOOK WILL DEFEND ITSELF
We do not fear for God’s Word, He’ll take care of it! We fear only for its readers. These new versions are simply unsafe to rely on.
We trust this information will help our readers to understand this issue more clearly. Compare the verses for yourself and you will see that we do have a reliable, dependable copy of the Word of God in our own language. God has preserved His Word and made it available to us in our own language in an absolutely dependable form, the King James Bible.
___________________________
We are using the New International Version for comparison quotes because of its present popularity. What is true of it, however, is consistently true of other modern versions.
Thursday, April 23, 2015
NIV Omissions (Part 2)
The underlined PHRASES are DELETED in the New International Version. (not counting the entire verses that the NIV omits)
From my notes taken from The Understandable History Of The Bible (Sam Gipp), If The Foundations Be Destroyed (Chick Silliby), and Jack Moorman's Early Manuscripts, Church Fathers, And The AV.
This is why the NIV is missing 64,000 words and 15 entire verses!
From my notes taken from The Understandable History Of The Bible (Sam Gipp), If The Foundations Be Destroyed (Chick Silliby), and Jack Moorman's Early Manuscripts, Church Fathers, And The AV.
This is why the NIV is missing 64,000 words and 15 entire verses!
Matthew
6:33 But seek ye first the
kingdom of God,
and his righteousness.
Matthew
8:29 And behold, they cried out
saying, What have we to do with thee, Jesus,
thou Son of God?
Matthew
13:36 Then Jesus sent
the multitude away, and went into the house.
Matthew
13:51 Jesus saith unto them, Have
ye understood all these things? They say unto him, Yea, Lord.
Matthew
15:30 And great multitudes came
unto him, having with them those that were lame, blind, dumb, maimed,
and many others, and cast them down at Jesus'
feet; and he healed them.
Matthew
16:20 Then charged he his
disciples that they should tell no man that he was Jesus the
Christ.
Matthew
17:20 And Jesus said
unto them, because of your unbelief,
Matthew
18:2 And Jesus called
a little child unto him.
Matthew
18:11 For the Son of man is
come to save that which was lost.
Matthew
19:17 And he said unto him, Why
callest thou me good? there is none good but one,
that is God.
Matthew
21:12 And Jesus went into the
temple of God and
cast out all them that sold and bought.
Matthew
22:30 For in the resurrection
they neither marry, nor are given in marriage, but are as the
angels of God in
heaven.
Matthew
22:32 God is
not the God of the dead, but of the living.
Matthew
23:8 But be not ye called Rabbi:
for one is your Master, even
Christ.
Matthew
24:2 And Jesus said
unto them, See ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you, There
shall not be left here one stone upon another.
Matthew
25:13 Watch therefore, for ye
know neither the day nor the hour wherein
the Son of man cometh.
Matthew
28:6 He is not here: for he is
risen, as he said. Come, see the place where the
Lord lay.
Mark5:13
And forthwith Jesus gave
them leave.
6:33 And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot.
thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
7:27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled.
9:24 The father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord.
11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord.
11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee.
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living.
14:45 and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
6:33 And the people saw them departing, and many knew him, and ran afoot.
thither out of all cities, and outwent them, and came together unto him.
7:27 But Jesus said unto her, Let the children first be filled.
9:24 The father of the child cried out, and said with tears, Lord.
11:10 Blessed be the kingdom of our father David, that cometh in the name of the Lord.
11:14 And Jesus answered and said unto it, No man eat fruit of thee.
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
12:27 He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living.
14:45 and saith, Master, master; and kissed him.
Luke2:40
And the child grew, and waxed strong in
spirit.
4:4 man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
4:41 Thou art Christ the Son of God.
7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way.
7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation?
9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
9:57 Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God.
13:25 Lord, Lord open to us.
21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God.
22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon.
23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me.
4:4 man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.
4:41 Thou art Christ the Son of God.
7:22 Then Jesus answering said unto them, Go your way.
7:31 And the Lord said, Whereunto then shall I liken the men of this generation?
9:56 For the Son of man is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them.
9:57 Lord, I will follow thee whithersoever thou goest.
12:31 But rather seek ye the kingdom of God.
13:25 Lord, Lord open to us.
21:4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God.
22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon.
23:42 And he said unto Jesus, Lord, remember me.
John4:16 Jesus saith
unto her, Go, call thy husband.
4:42 and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
4:46 So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee.
5:30 because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me.
6:69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury.
8:29 the Father hath not left me alone.
9:35 Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
16:16 a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
19:38 He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.
4:42 and know that this is indeed the Christ, the Saviour of the world.
4:46 So Jesus came again into Cana of Galilee.
5:30 because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
6:39 And this is the Father's will which hath sent me.
6:69 And we believe and are sure that thou art that Christ, the Son of the living God.
8:20 These words spake Jesus in the treasury.
8:29 the Father hath not left me alone.
9:35 Dost thou believe on the Son of God?
16:16 a little while, and ye shall see me, because I go to the Father.
19:38 He came therefore, and took the body of Jesus.
Acts2:30 according
to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to
sit on his throne.
3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus.
4:24 Lord, thou art God.
7:30 there appeared to him in the wilderness of Mount Sina an angel of the Lord.
7:32 I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
7:37 A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren like unto me; him shall ye hear.
8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
9:5-6 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise.
9:29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus.
15:11 through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
19:4 that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
19:10 so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus.
20:21 repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
20:25 among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God.
22:16 wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
23:9 let us not fight against God.
3:26 Unto you first God, having raised up his Son Jesus.
4:24 Lord, thou art God.
7:30 there appeared to him in the wilderness of Mount Sina an angel of the Lord.
7:32 I am the God of thy fathers, the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.
7:37 A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren like unto me; him shall ye hear.
8:37 And Philip said, If thou believest with all thine heart, thou mayest. And he answered and said, I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God.
9:5-6 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks. And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord said unto him, Arise.
9:29 And he spake boldly in the name of the Lord Jesus.
15:11 through the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ we shall be saved, even as they.
15:18 Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.
16:31 Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved.
19:4 that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
19:10 so that all they which dwelt in Asia heard the word of the Lord Jesus.
20:21 repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.
20:25 among whom I have gone preaching the kingdom of God.
22:16 wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
23:9 let us not fight against God.
Romans1:16
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of
Christ.
6:11 alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ. Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord.
15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision.
15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God.
16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ.
16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
6:11 alive unto God through Jesus Christ our Lord.
8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ. Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord.
15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision.
15:19 Through mighty signs and wonders, by the power of the Spirit of God.
16:18 For they that are such serve not our Lord Jesus Christ.
16:24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
I
Corinthians1:14 I
thank God that
I baptized none of you.
5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together.
5:5 that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6:20 glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
9:1 have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord?
9:18 Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge.
10:28 for the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.
15:47 the second man is the Lord from heaven.
16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema.
16:23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
5:4 In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together.
5:5 that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
6:20 glorify God in your body and in your spirit, which are God's.
9:1 have I not seen Jesus Christ our Lord?
9:18 Verily that, when I preach the gospel, I may make the gospel of Christ without charge.
10:28 for the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof.
15:47 the second man is the Lord from heaven.
16:22 If any man love not the Lord Jesus Christ, let him be Anathema.
16:23 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you.
II
Corinthians4:6
the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ.
4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus.
5:18 hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ.
10:7 that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
4:10 Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus.
5:18 hath reconciled us to himself by Jesus Christ.
10:7 that, as he is Christ's, even so are we Christ's.
11:31 The God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Galatians3:17
the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in
Christ.
4:7 heir of God through Christ.
6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing.
6:17 I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
4:7 heir of God through Christ.
6:15 For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing.
6:17 I bear in my body the marks of the Lord Jesus.
Ephesians3:9
God, who created all things by
Jesus Christ.
3:14 I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
5:9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness.
3:14 I bow my knees unto the Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
5:9 For the fruit of the Spirit is in all goodness.
Philippians4:13
I can do all things through Christ.
Colossians1:2
peace, from God our Father and
the Lord Jesus Christ.
1:28 that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
2:2 to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ.
1:28 that we may present every man perfect in Christ Jesus.
2:2 to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ.
I
Thessalonians1:1
peace, from God our Father, and
the Lord Jesus Christ.
2:19 in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
3:13 at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
2:19 in the presence of our Lord Jesus Christ at his coming?
3:11 Now God himself and our Father, and our Lord Jesus Christ.
3:13 at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ with all his saints.
II
Thessalonians1:8
that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ.
1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified.
2:4, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God.
1:12 That the name of our Lord Jesus Christ may be glorified.
2:4, so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God.
I
Timothy1:1
and Lord Jesus
Christ, which is our hope.
2:7 speak the truth in Christ, and lie not.
3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh.
5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
2:7 speak the truth in Christ, and lie not.
3:16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh.
5:21 I charge thee before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ.
II
Timothy4:1
I charge thee therefore before God and the
Lord Jesus Christ.
4:22 The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit.
4:22 The Lord Jesus Christ be with thy spirit.
Titus1:4
from God the Father and the Lord Jesus
Christ our Saviour.
Philemon6
every good thing which is in you in Christ Jesus.
Hebrews3:1
the Apostle and High Priest of our profession, Christ Jesus.
10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God.
10:30 I will recompense, saith the Lord.
10:9 Then said he, Lo, I come to do thy will, O God.
10:30 I will recompense, saith the Lord.
I
Peter1:22
Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through
the Spirit.
5:10 who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus.
5:14 Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.
5:10 who hath called us unto his eternal glory by Christ Jesus.
5:14 Peace be with you all that are in Christ Jesus. Amen.
I
John1:7
the blood of Jesus Christ his
Son cleanseth us from all sin.
3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God.
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God.
5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:13 and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
3:16 Hereby perceive we the love of God.
4:3 And every spirit that confesseth not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God.
5:7-8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:13 and that ye may believe on the name of the Son of God.
II
John3
and from the Lord Jesus
Christ.
9 He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
9 He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son.
Jude
4
denying the only Lord God,
and our Lord Jesus Christ.
Revelation1:8
I am Alpha and Omega, the
beginning and the ending.
1:9 the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.
5:14 the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
12:17 and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
14:5 they are without fault before the throne of God.
16:5 Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be.
19:1 glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God.
20:9 and there came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
1:9 the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ and for the testimony of Jesus Christ.
1:11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last.
5:14 the four and twenty elders fell down and worshipped him that liveth for ever and ever.
12:17 and have the testimony of Jesus Christ.
14:5 they are without fault before the throne of God.
16:5 Thou art righteous, O Lord, which art, and wast, and shalt be.
19:1 glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God.
20:9 and there came down from God out of heaven, and devoured them.
20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God.
21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
22:21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.
NIV Omissions (Part 1)
The underlined PHRASES are DELETED in the New International Version. (not counting the entire verses that the NIV omits)
From my notes taken from The Understandable History Of The Bible (Sam Gipp), If The Foundations Be Destroyed (Chick Silliby), and Jack Moorman's Early Manuscripts, Church Fathers, And The AV.
From my notes taken from The Understandable History Of The Bible (Sam Gipp), If The Foundations Be Destroyed (Chick Silliby), and Jack Moorman's Early Manuscripts, Church Fathers, And The AV.
Matthew
1:25And knew her not till she
had brought forth her firstborn son.
Matthew
5:44But I say unto you, Love
your enemies, bless them that
curse you, do good to them that hate you,
and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you.
Matthew
6:13And lead us not into
temptation, but deliver us from evil: For
thine is the kingdom, and the power and the glory, forever. Amen.
Matthew
9:13For I am not come to call
the righteous, but sinners to
repentance.
Matthew
15:8This people draweth
nigh unto me with their mouth, and
honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
Matthew
16:3O ye hypocrites,
ye can discern the face of the sky, but can ye not discern the signs
of the times?
Matthew
17:21Howbeit this kind goeth
not out but by prayer and fasting.
Matthew
19:9And I say unto you,
Whosoever shall put away his wife except it be for fornication, and
shall marry another, committeth adultery: and
whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery.
Matthew
20:16So the last shall be first
and the first last: for many be
called but few chosen.
Matthew
20:22But Jesus answered and
said, Ye know not what ye ask. Are ye able to drink of the cup that I
shall drink of, and to be
baptized with the baptism that I am baptized with?
Matthew
23:14Woe unto you, scribes
and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses,
and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall
receive the greater damnation.
Matthew
27:35And they crucified him, and
parted his garments, casting lots: that
it might be fulfilled which was spoken by the prophet, They parted my
garments among them, and upon my vesture did they cast lots.
Mark1:14
Jesus came into Galilee, preaching the gospel of
the kingdom of God.
1:31 and immediately the fever left her.
2:17 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
6:11 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.
7:8 Ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
10:21 come, take up the cross, and follow me.
10:24 Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God.
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet.
13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray.
14:68 And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.
15:28 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
1:31 and immediately the fever left her.
2:17 I came not to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.
6:11 Verily I say unto you, It shall be more tolerable for Sodom and Gomorrah in the day of judgment than for that city.
7:8 Ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
7:16 If any man have ears to hear, let him hear.
9:44 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.
9:46 Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched.9:49 For every one shall be salted with fire and every sacrifice shall be salted with salt.
10:21 come, take up the cross, and follow me.
10:24 Children, how hard is it for them that trust in riches to enter into the kingdom of God.
11:26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses.
13:14 But when ye shall see the abomination of desolation spoken of by Daniel the prophet.
13:33 Take ye heed, watch and pray.
14:68 And he went out into the porch; and the cock crew.
15:28 And the scripture was fulfilled which saith, And he was numbered with the transgressors.
Luke
1:28 the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
2:43 Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan:
9:54 Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
9:55 But he turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
11:2-4 When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth…but deliver us from evil.
11:29 they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you.
22:64 And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face.
23:17 For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.
23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
1:28 the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women.
2:43 Jesus tarried behind in Jerusalem; and Joseph and his mother knew not of it.
4:8 And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan:
9:54 Lord, wilt thou that we command fire to come down from heaven, and consume them, even as Elias did?
9:55 But he turned and rebuked them, and said, Ye know not what manner of spirit ye are of.
11:2-4 When ye pray, say, Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done, as in heaven, so in earth…but deliver us from evil.
11:29 they seek a sign; and there shall no sign be given it but the sign of Jonas the prophet.
17:36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left.
22:31 And the Lord said, Simon, Simon, behold, Satan hath desired to have you.
22:64 And when they had blindfolded him, they struck him on the face.
23:17 For of necessity he must release one unto them at the feast.
23:38 And a superscription also was written over him in letters of Greek, and Latin, and Hebrew, THIS IS THE KING OF THE JEWS.
John1:27
He it is, who coming after me is
preferred before me.
3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
5:3-4 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
6:47 He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid.
17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name.
3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, even the Son of man which is in heaven.
5:3-4 In these lay a great multitude of impotent folk, of blind, halt, withered, waiting for the moving of the water. For an angel went down at a certain season into the pool, and troubled the water: whosoever then first after the troubling of the water stepped in was made whole of whatsoever disease he had.
6:47 He that believeth on me hath everlasting life.
11:41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid.
17:12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in thy name.
Acts10:6 he
shall tell thee what thou oughtest to do.
20:32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God.
24:6-8 Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, Commanding his accusers to come unto thee.
24:15 there shall be a resurrection of the dead both of the just and unjust.
28:16 And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard.
28:29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed and had great reasoning among themselves.
20:32 And now, brethren, I commend you to God.
24:6-8 Who also hath gone about to profane the temple: whom we took, and would have judged according to our law. But the chief captain Lysias came upon us, and with great violence took him away out of our hands, Commanding his accusers to come unto thee.
24:15 there shall be a resurrection of the dead both of the just and unjust.
28:16 And when we came to Rome, the centurion delivered the prisoners to the captain of the guard.
28:29 And when he had said these words, the Jews departed and had great reasoning among themselves.
Romans1:16
I am not ashamed of the Gospel of
Christ.
9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
10:15 How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace.
13:9 Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness.
14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks.
14:21 whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
15:29 I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.
9:28 For he will finish the work, and cut it short in righteousness: because a short work will the Lord make upon the earth.
10:15 How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace.
13:9 Thou shalt not steal, Thou shalt not bear false witness.
14:6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks.
14:21 whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
15:29 I shall come in the fullness of the blessing of the gospel of Christ.
I
Corinthians5:7
For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for
us.
7:5 that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer.
7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth.
11:24 Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you.
7:5 that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer.
7:39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth.
11:24 Take, eat: this is my body, which is broken for you.
Galatians3:1
who hath bewitched you, that
ye should not obey the truth.
Ephesians5:30
For we are members of his body, of
his flesh, and of his bones.
6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord.
6:10 Finally, my brethren, be strong in the Lord.
Philippians3:16
Let us walk by the same rule,
let us mind the same thing.
Colossians1:14
In whom we have redemption through
his blood.
3:6 the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.
3:6 the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience.
II
Thessalonians1:8
In flaming
fire taking vengeance on them
that know not God.
I
Timothy1:17
immortal, invisible, the only wise God.
4:12 in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
6:5 destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
4:12 in charity, in spirit, in faith, in purity.
6:5 destitute of the truth, supposing that gain is godliness: from such withdraw thyself.
II
Timothy1:11
I am appointed a preacher, and an apostle, and a teacher of
the Gentiles.
Philemon1:12
Whom I have sent again: thou
therefore receive him.
Hebrews1:3
when he had by himself purged
our sins.
2:7 thou crownedst him with glory and honour and didst set him over the works of thy hands.
7:21 Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
10:34 knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
2:7 thou crownedst him with glory and honour and didst set him over the works of thy hands.
7:21 Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec.
10:34 knowing in yourselves that ye have in heaven a better and an enduring substance.
I
Peter4:1
Christ hath suffered for us in
the flesh.
4:14 on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
4:14 on their part he is evil spoken of, but on your part he is glorified.
5:11 To him be glory and dominion for ever and ever. Amen.
II
Peter2:17 to
whom the mist of darkness is reserved for
ever.
I
John2:7
The old commandment is the word which ye have heard from
the beginning.
5:7,8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
5:7,8 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one. 8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
Jude25
To the only wise God
our Saviour.
Revelation2:13
I Know thy works,
and where thou dwellest.
6:1 one of the four beasts saying Come and see. Also in verses 3, 5 and 7.
11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come.
12:12 Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea.
16:17 there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven.
21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their gloryand honour into it.
6:1 one of the four beasts saying Come and see. Also in verses 3, 5 and 7.
11:17 Saying, We give thee thanks O Lord God Almighty, which art, and wast, and art to come.
12:12 Woe to the inhabitants of the earth and of the sea.
16:17 there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven.
21:24 And the nations of them which are saved shall walk in the light of it: and the kings of the earth do bring their gloryand honour into it.
Free online books on dispensationalism
All these can be found on my Dispensational Sites page.
Dispensationalism Misunderstood by Ken Blue (online booklet)
http://www.biblebelievers.com/BlueDISP.html
The Difference Is In The Dispensations, by Timothy Morton (online book)
http://www.preservedwords.com/dispen1a.htm
The Second Coming of Christ, by Clarence Larkin (online book)
http://www.preservedwords.com/larkin%20sc.htm
Dispensational Synopsis Of The New Testament by Charles Baker (online book)
Thing That Differ by Cornelius Stam (online book)
True Spirituality by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Thessalonians by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Galatians: Law and Grace by Cornelius Stam (online book)
The Authors Choice by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Romans by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Pastoral Epistles by Cornelius Stam (online book)
1 Corinthians by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Dispensational Relationships by Charles Baker
Dispensationalism Misunderstood by Ken Blue (online booklet)
http://www.biblebelievers.com/BlueDISP.html
The Difference Is In The Dispensations, by Timothy Morton (online book)
http://www.preservedwords.com/dispen1a.htm
The Second Coming of Christ, by Clarence Larkin (online book)
http://www.preservedwords.com/larkin%20sc.htm
Dispensational Synopsis Of The New Testament by Charles Baker (online book)
Thing That Differ by Cornelius Stam (online book)
The Two Fold Purpose Of God by Cornelius Stam (online book)
True Spirituality by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Thessalonians by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Galatians: Law and Grace by Cornelius Stam (online book)
The Authors Choice by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Romans by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Pastoral Epistles by Cornelius Stam (online book)
1 Corinthians by Cornelius Stam (online book)
2 Corinthians by Cornelius Stam (online book)
Dispensational Relationships by Charles Baker
http://www.gracegospel.eu/StamI07.pdf
Appendixes to Companion Bible (E.W. Bullinger)
http://levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html
Appendixes to Companion Bible (E.W. Bullinger)
http://levendwater.org/companion/index_companion.html